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Post by noorderling on May 29, 2024 5:47:31 GMT
In this clip he claims he has lived in TW since 1997. My memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember he claimed he lived in North Norfolk when he was the Tory candidate in the 2001-2005 parliament.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 29, 2024 5:57:36 GMT
In this clip he claims he has lived in TW since 1997. My memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember he claimed he lived in North Norfolk when he was the Tory candidate in the 2001-2005 parliament. He lives between the two AFAIK.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 29, 2024 6:53:33 GMT
He’s been associated with RTW for sometime, guessing that’s where he lives while in London in the week? Back to him being a candidate, he resigned from the approved list (assume he was on the ‘A’ list) in June 2010: iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/06/candidate-no-longer.html And he definitely resigned from the party at some point too. Not unsurprising that he’s presumably quietly rejoined for one final try
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Post by noorderling on May 29, 2024 6:59:42 GMT
In this clip he claims he has lived in TW since 1997. My memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember he claimed he lived in North Norfolk when he was the Tory candidate in the 2001-2005 parliament. He lives between the two AFAIK. Wikipedia has Dale as the candidate, which seems a bit premature.
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Post by mrsir on May 29, 2024 7:51:59 GMT
I doubt it will be popular on here but I do quite like his podcast with Jacqui Smith. They do seem to have fairly sikilar politics though like many of the podcast duos that have cropped up over the last few years.
Greg Clark is a social democrat anyway. Hopefully the local party chooses more wisely this time.
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Post by YL on May 31, 2024 9:23:10 GMT
Dale has pulled out.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 31, 2024 9:31:48 GMT
One can only assume after initial canvassing he's realised he's not going to get the nomination and this is a lesser humiliation that being soundly beaten tonight?
He's quite possibly been very badly advised and/or had a very high opinion of himself and/or has no real insight into the local party where he lives.
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Post by johng on May 31, 2024 9:33:25 GMT
One can only assume after initial canvassing he's realised he's not going to get the nomination and this is a lesser humiliation that being soundly beaten tonight? He's quite possibly been very badly advised and/or had a very high opinion of himself and/or has no real insight into the local party where he lives. Quite likely. Though this is still quite embarrassing given he announced on LBC he was running and it was his last show.
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Post by Merseymike on May 31, 2024 9:41:49 GMT
One can only assume after initial canvassing he's realised he's not going to get the nomination and this is a lesser humiliation that being soundly beaten tonight? He's quite possibly been very badly advised and/or had a very high opinion of himself and/or has no real insight into the local party where he lives. Quite likely. Though this is still quite embarrassing given he announced on LBC he was running and it was his last show. Mind you, he is a very good broadcaster - he might go back to LBC next Monday!
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Post by willpower3 on May 31, 2024 9:49:39 GMT
Glad this pompous twat won't be in Parliament.
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Post by kitesurfer on May 31, 2024 13:32:56 GMT
Maybe he will look for another seat? He could try Surrey Heath for example.
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Post by johng on May 31, 2024 17:41:33 GMT
Maybe he will look for another seat? He could try Surrey Heath for example.
Or somewhere where CCHQ can pop him in at the absolute last moment.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 31, 2024 17:57:50 GMT
It's unfortunate for him. I don't agree with all the Iain Dale hate, I think it's a bit odd. I think he could be an asset to the party, as I said before, and I would not be opposed to him standing for us anywhere really. Hopefully not somewhere where it takes the Liberal Democrats only 12 hours to dig up dirt though.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on May 31, 2024 18:00:26 GMT
It's unfortunate for him. I don't agree with all the Iain Dale hate, I think it's a bit odd. I think he could be an asset to the party, as I said before, and I would not be opposed to him standing for us anywhere really. Hopefully not somewhere where it takes the Liberal Democrats only 12 hours to dig up dirt though. there's something about him that gets up people's noses including me
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Post by Foggy on May 31, 2024 18:01:51 GMT
It's unfortunate for him. I don't agree with all the Iain Dale hate, I think it's a bit odd. I think he could be an asset to the party, as I said before, and I would not be opposed to him standing for us anywhere really. Hopefully not somewhere where it takes the Liberal Democrats only 12 hours to dig up dirt though. there's something about him that gets up people's noses including me That's harsh. I often find the contents of my nose far more pleasant than Dale.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on May 31, 2024 18:02:35 GMT
there's something about him that gets up people's noses including me That's harsh. I often find the contents of my nose far more pleasant than Dale.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 31, 2024 18:10:36 GMT
It's unfortunate for him. I don't agree with all the Iain Dale hate, I think it's a bit odd. I think he could be an asset to the party, as I said before, and I would not be opposed to him standing for us anywhere really. Hopefully not somewhere where it takes the Liberal Democrats only 12 hours to dig up dirt though. there's something about him that gets up people's noses including me I've never found that. Sometimes I roll my eyes at some of his stances, but I find him much more interesting than the likes of Labour activist Lewis Goodall, John Sopel, Robert Peston etc. Some of his podcasts are also interesting, For the Many can be quite good, and his programmes on every British Prime Minister were also interesting and I learned a lot. I also like his Cross Question programme, or what was his Cross Question programme rather. Like Debate Night on BBC Scotland, I think it is better moderated and more interesting than the garbage fire over at Question Time.
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Post by jakegb on May 31, 2024 18:52:41 GMT
I like Dale's podcasts. On the day-to-day evening shows, he is ok - sometimes a little too curt with key guests/callers. But it is a difficult balance to strike. I was surprised by his initial MP announcement a few days ago. He has moved leftwards in recent years on key issues. Also, he has candidly expressed how difficult he found losing (badly) in North Norfolk in 05.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 31, 2024 20:05:11 GMT
I'm slightly surprised there is no comment (on this thread at least) that the reason Dale pulled out was that the local LDs had found a quote from him stating that he didn't like Tunbridge Wells and only lived there because his wife wanted to.
Which, in theory at least, means he might be up for standing somewhere else (although you'd have thought not in this GE on grounds of embarrassment).
It also is pretty much the dream outcome for the LDs since a potentially dangerous opponent is removed and the Conservatives are both left looking silly (I think the reason for his withdrawal is the sort of thing that will cut through locally, and leave a bit of a bad smell) and in need of a replacement at even shorter notice than before. All on top of the mild embarrassment of a reasonably high-profile sitting MP showing that he wasn't up for the fight.
Meanwhile, the Labour candidate is on Twitter making the entirely reasonable case that people should vote for what they believe rather than tactically, which is all very well but is an open admission that the tactical anti-Tory vote here is for the LDs. Personally I'd have that on the leaflet right next to the bar chart.
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Post by stb12 on May 31, 2024 20:52:07 GMT
I'm slightly surprised there is no comment (on this thread at least) that the reason Dale pulled out was that the local LDs had found a quote from him stating that he didn't like Tunbridge Wells and only lived there because his wife wanted to. Which, in theory at least, means he might be up for standing somewhere else (although you'd have thought not in this GE on grounds of embarrassment). It also is pretty much the dream outcome for the LDs since a potentially dangerous opponent is removed and the Conservatives are both left looking silly (I think the reason for his withdrawal is the sort of thing that will cut through locally, and leave a bit of a bad smell) and in need of a replacement at even shorter notice than before. All on top of the mild embarrassment of a reasonably high-profile sitting MP showing that he wasn't up for the fight. Meanwhile, the Labour candidate is on Twitter making the entirely reasonable case that people should vote for what they believe rather than tactically, which is all very well but is an open admission that the tactical anti-Tory vote here is for the LDs. Personally I'd have that on the leaflet right next to the bar chart. He did also say during the interview with Nick Ferrari that with the amount of hours he’s done on the radio over the years he couldn’t be sure that other potentially damaging comments wouldn’t be dug up that he can’t even remember himself. Which does sound like a general hazard a broadcaster standing for election could face these days as pretty much everything will be recorded on the internet somewhere
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