Tatton

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Tatton

[iain]

www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/pdf/elections/parliamentary-election-2024/statement-of-persons-nominated-and-notice-of-poll-tatton-constituency.pdf

Just the 5 main parties

[cogload]

Fair play, at least she is engaging the crowd.

[bsjmcr]

This and Newark I think were two of the most disappointing results of the night for me. Even more than Hunt, whose chances of leadership are zero as he has said, likewise IDS.

Tactical voting clearly failed here as LDs and Greens piled on way too many votes. And is it just that this place is too well off to ever vote Labour, it’s in their DNA? Maybe even the private schools/tax rises scaremongering could have played a part here.

[ccoleman]

Jul 7, 2024 20:44:37 GMT bsjmcr said:

This and Newark I think were two of the most disappointing results of the night for me. Even more than Hunt, whose chances of leadership are zero as he has said, likewise IDS.

Tactical voting clearly failed here as LDs and Greens piled on way too many votes. And is it just that this place is too well off to ever vote Labour, it’s in their DNA? Maybe even the private schools/tax rises scaremongering could have played a part here.

There are richer constituencies than this that voted Labour, so I don’t think that’s it. I think a failure of tactical voting is probably the most plausible explanation. 

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jul 7, 2024 20:44:37 GMT bsjmcr said:

This and Newark I think were two of the most disappointing results of the night for me. Even more than Hunt, whose chances of leadership are zero as he has said, likewise IDS.

Tactical voting clearly failed here as LDs and Greens piled on way too many votes. And is it just that this place is too well off to ever vote Labour, it’s in their DNA? Maybe even the private schools/tax rises scaremongering could have played a part here.

It's probably the aspect of just being too well-off to vote Labour. Naturally Laboury bits are in short supply - bits of Handforth and Wilmslow maybe.

That said, there is a lot of housing springing up, and Handforth seems to be attracting thirtysomethings moving out of town but who can't afford the surrounding towns or suburbs. It might be one to watch in future.

[birkinabe]

Jul 7, 2024 21:59:19 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

[It's probably the aspect of just being too well-off to vote Labour. Naturally Laboury bits are in short supply - bits of Handforth and Wilmslow maybe.

That said, there is a lot of housing springing up, and Handforth seems to be attracting thirtysomethings moving out of town but who can't afford the surrounding towns or suburbs. It might be one to watch in future.

Relating to all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if, despite the overall result here, Handforth in particular voted Labour by quite a considerable margin.

[john07]

Jul 8, 2024 14:05:47 GMT birkinabe said:

Jul 7, 2024 21:59:19 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

[It's probably the aspect of just being too well-off to vote Labour. Naturally Laboury bits are in short supply - bits of Handforth and Wilmslow maybe.

That said, there is a lot of housing springing up, and Handforth seems to be attracting thirtysomethings moving out of town but who can't afford the surrounding towns or suburbs. It might be one to watch in future.

Relating to all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if, despite the overall result here, Handforth in particular voted Labour by quite a considerable margin.

There is a large Manchester overspill estate in Handforth and another in Wilmslow. However this never seemed to have much impact on local authority elections when I lived in the area. Both were part of the Cheadle Constituency back then.

[bsjmcr]

Jul 8, 2024 14:05:47 GMT birkinabe said:

Jul 7, 2024 21:59:19 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

[It's probably the aspect of just being too well-off to vote Labour. Naturally Laboury bits are in short supply - bits of Handforth and Wilmslow maybe.

That said, there is a lot of housing springing up, and Handforth seems to be attracting thirtysomethings moving out of town but who can't afford the surrounding towns or suburbs. It might be one to watch in future.

Relating to all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if, despite the overall result here, Handforth in particular voted Labour by quite a considerable margin.

Next time: IND (Weaver) Gain

[Deleted]

Jul 7, 2024 20:44:37 GMT bsjmcr said:

This and Newark I think were two of the most disappointing results of the night for me. Even more than Hunt, whose chances of leadership are zero as he has said, likewise IDS.

Tactical voting clearly failed here as LDs and Greens piled on way too many votes. And is it just that this place is too well off to ever vote Labour, it’s in their DNA? Maybe even the private schools/tax rises scaremongering could have played a part here.

Yes. If voters had common sense, the 'Minister for Common Sense' wouldn't be an MP now.

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jul 8, 2024 15:31:40 GMT john07 said:

Jul 8, 2024 14:05:47 GMT birkinabe said:

Relating to all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if, despite the overall result here, Handforth in particular voted Labour by quite a considerable margin.

There is a large Manchester overspill estate in Handforth and another in Wilmslow. However this never seemed to have much impact on local authority elections when I lived in the area. Both were part of the Cheadle Constituency back then.

Colshaw Farm and Lacey Green?

[birkinabe]

Jul 8, 2024 15:31:40 GMT john07 said:

There is a large Manchester overspill estate in Handforth and another in Wilmslow. However this never seemed to have much impact on local authority elections when I lived in the area. Both were part of the Cheadle Constituency back then.

Yeah that alone wouldn't have been enough for Labour to ever win back then (even if it did vote for them, which isn't necessarily a safe assumption to make). In last year's local elections however their sole candidate in the respective council ward did win a higher share of the vote than either Conservative candidate, though ultimately both seats were won by independents.

Jul 8, 2024 16:03:37 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Colshaw Farm and Lacey Green?

I think those are both considered part of Wilmslow, with Handforth having its own separate overspill estates.

[Devil Wincarnate]

Handforth is a very weird place. It feels like a patchwork of different towns vaguely cobbled together.

[john07]

Jul 8, 2024 16:49:28 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Handforth is a very weird place. It feels like a patchwork of different towns vaguely cobbled together.

I did stay in what we thought was Handforth long ago. My father had a job as a toolmaker on Bird Hall Lane and we moved up from Shropshire. We were staying with my father’s uncle and aunt on Bolshaw Road. His aunt was so mean that we wouldn’t put a light on a tried to read by the light from the radio.

It is now part of Heald Green but back then that was all green fields and we considered it to be Handforth at the time despite being over the border in Cheadle and Gatley.

My first job, for three years, was in Wilmslow so I knew the area quite well then but I doubt I would recognise it now. My last time in Handforth was to buy some potatoes from a farm shop there. I encountered a notable Handforth resident in the queue: Neil Young.

[finsobruce]

Jul 8, 2024 17:28:31 GMT john07 said:

Jul 8, 2024 16:49:28 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Handforth is a very weird place. It feels like a patchwork of different towns vaguely cobbled together.

I did stay in what we thought was Handforth long ago. My father had a job as a toolmaker on Bird Hall Lane and we moved up from Shropshire. We were staying with my father’s uncle and aunt on Bolshaw Road. His aunt was so mean that we wouldn’t put a light on a tried to read by the light from the radio.

It is now part of Heald Green but back then that was all green fields and we considered it to be Handforth at the time despite being over the border in Cheadle and Gatley.

My first job, for three years, was in Wilmslow so I knew the area quite well then but I doubt I would recognise it now. My last time in Handforth was to buy some potatoes from a farm shop there. I encountered a notable Handforth resident in the queue: Neil Young.

By which we presume you mean the Manchester City footballer rather than the Canadian musical legend.

[where2travel]

Jul 8, 2024 16:49:28 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Handforth is a very weird place. It feels like a patchwork of different towns vaguely cobbled together.

It does seem an odd place, and I've never put my finger on why I've thought that. Geographically it could easily be part of Greater Manchester, and somehow doesn't feel a proper part of GM (which it obviously isn't) or Cheshire.

Maybe part of it is politically it's always had its independents (similar to Heald Green which is just the other side of the GM boundary).

[The Bishop]

Labour's candidate had little (certainly recent) connection to the seat, which maybe didn't help very much.

[batman]

Jul 8, 2024 15:36:07 GMT bsjmcr said:

Jul 8, 2024 14:05:47 GMT birkinabe said:

Relating to all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if, despite the overall result here, Handforth in particular voted Labour by quite a considerable margin.

Next time: IND (Weaver) Gain

YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT PREDICTION

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jul 8, 2024 20:57:55 GMT The Bishop said:

Labour's candidate had little (certainly recent) connection to the seat, which maybe didn't help very much.

It probably is one of those seats where it doesn't matter, half the locals are blow-ins!

[john07]

Jul 8, 2024 20:57:55 GMT The Bishop said:

Labour's candidate had little (certainly recent) connection to the seat, which maybe didn't help very much.

It’s coming to something if Labour supporters are expressing disappointed by failing to win Tatton!