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Post by Khunanup on May 15, 2013 22:23:17 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on May 16, 2013 6:51:54 GMT
History made with the first Green member elected.
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Post by The Bishop on May 16, 2013 10:33:55 GMT
This makes our polling disaster in 1992 look like small beer - WTF happened??
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2013 11:10:16 GMT
Canadian pollsters are even worse than British ones?
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2013 11:11:09 GMT
Though it's also undeniable that Dix cocked up his campaign pretty badly.
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Post by iainbhx on May 16, 2013 11:16:17 GMT
Canadian pollsters are even worse than British ones? Angus Reid is a highly respected Canadian pollster. No Further Comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 19:59:29 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 19, 2013 20:57:55 GMT
Bob Rae was NDP Premier of Ontario 1990-95, who later (2006) joined the Liberals federally.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 21, 2013 11:22:08 GMT
Four lovely federal byelections on 25 November:
Toronto Centre: after resignation of Bob Rae (L), now a negotiator for the First Nations
Bourassa: after resignation of Denis Couderre (L), running for Mayor of Montreal
Provencher: after resignation of Vic Toews (C), retiring
Brandon-Souris: after resignation of Merv Tweed (C), retiring
The two Conservative seats are safe. Both the Liberal seats were reasonably close for the NDP.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 21, 2013 12:01:11 GMT
Are the NDP maintaining their momentum in Quebec though? We shall see I suppose, but a seat the Liberals managed to hold there in 2011 should be fairly safe in whatever might be considered 'normal' circumstacnes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 14:33:29 GMT
The Liberals will hold them, but the vote share will be interesting
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 21, 2013 16:51:10 GMT
That would be a massive swing in Brandon-Souris if its at all accurate, but not remotely repeated in nearby Provencher. Is there some specififc factor or is the poll basically worthless ? (its a pretty small sample)
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 21, 2013 23:33:45 GMT
The Canadian centre-left which has a considerable majority really needs either to force through electoral reform or come to some sort of agreement about who stands where, particularly as they tend to have their own areas of strength and weakness. A Trudeau in charge of the Liberals will send them in a more social democratic direction, certainly
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 21, 2013 23:39:53 GMT
That would be a massive swing in Brandon-Souris if its at all accurate, but not remotely repeated in nearby Provencher. Is there some specififc factor or is the poll basically worthless ? (its a pretty small sample) Apparently there's been some dissatisfaction with the way the resigned MP quit 'to make money' . Also the Liberal candidate is the son of the former PC MP for the riding 1951-82 (interestingly first elected in a shock by-election gain from the Liberals!). Having said that he's certainly not establishment despite his parentage whereas the Tory candidate is an MLA so part of the same type as his predecessor. Could be interesting... |
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 21, 2013 23:48:56 GMT
The Canadian centre-left which has a considerable majority really needs either to force through electoral reform or come to some sort of agreement about who stands where, particularly as they tend to have their own areas of strength and weakness. A Trudeau in charge of the Liberals will send them in a more social democratic direction, certainly Shall we do the same in the UK then? Shall we start by Labour pulling out of all rural and suburban bits of Southern England outside of London, that'd certainly help our bit of the centre left. Or is Canada a special case because the Labour Party equivalent over there has historically been the third party and looks like it might be going back that way? Electoral reform is of course a given but the Liberals and NDP in Canada are no Liberals and SDP in 1981 over here needing mutual support and agreeing to a common platform. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2013 11:42:37 GMT
The Canadian centre-left which has a considerable majority really needs either to force through electoral reform or come to some sort of agreement about who stands where, particularly as they tend to have their own areas of strength and weakness. A Trudeau in charge of the Liberals will send them in a more social democratic direction, certainly Shall we do the same in the UK then? Shall we start by Labour pulling out of all rural and suburban bits of Southern England outside of London, that'd certainly help our bit of the centre left. Or is Canada a special case because the Labour Party equivalent over there has historically been the third party and looks like it might be going back that way? Electoral reform is of course a given but the Liberals and NDP in Canada are no Liberals and SDP in 1981 over here needing mutual support and agreeing to a common platform. I don't regard the LibDems as part of the centre-left - maybe they could have been described as such at one time but people like Laws and Browne are clearly right-of-centre. If the LibDems returned to a clear left-of-centre stance in the future and abandoned the Orange book stuff, it may be a credible possibility. Of course in Canada, its different as the Liberals are very clearly left of centre (Trudeau has openly used the term 'social democratic'), as are the NDP and indeed the BQ. Only the Tories are clearly on the right, but they have managed two clear numerical majorities in parliament. Trudeau will definitely stress the left-of-centre element of the Liberals. I support electoral reform, by the way - AMS or a similar system. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 11:47:47 GMT
The Liberals in some of the provinces are clearly right of centre parties.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 12:47:04 GMT
Ignatieff in 2011 repeatedly denied that the Liberals were a party of the left (and much good it did him).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 17:45:41 GMT
Olivia Chow, NDP for Trinity-Spadina (inner Toronto) has resigned from the Commons to run in the Toronto mayoral election. Her seat was an NDP-Lib marginal until 2011 when it became (on paper) quite safe.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 12, 2014 21:56:40 GMT
The Liberals in some of the provinces are clearly right of centre parties. Indeed, you could quite convincingly argue that the Liberal Party is made up of two overlapping ideologies: being in power, and being the Liberal Party. The former always takes priority, mind. |
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