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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 7:49:14 GMT
not recieved well as Canada suffers a political death www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19478694"The gunman's target was unclear but the 50-year-old suspect was heard shouting in French "The English are waking up"." |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 5, 2012 7:50:17 GMT
The real results appear to be
PQ 54 seats
PLQ 49 seats plus leading in 1
CAQ 19 seats
QS 2 seats
Would expect a minority PQ unstable government which will not last long
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Post by marksenior on Sept 5, 2012 7:55:21 GMT
and final % vote shares
PQ 31.9%
PLQ 31.2%
CAQ 27.1%
QS 6.0%
Others 3.8%
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Post by john07 on Sept 5, 2012 12:31:53 GMT
Would expect a minority PQ unstable government which will not last long Canada has had plenty of minority governments (although more commonly at the federal level than in the provinces) and they can be surprisingly durable. Quebec had a Liberal-led minority government in 2007-8. It could have survived for longer but Charest took advantage of disarray in the Opposition to call an early election, where he gained an overall majority. The only circumstances in which the minority government might be in jeopardy is if Marois pushes for an independence referendum, which CAQ and the Liberals oppose, but she has always said that she will only do so if there are 'winning conditions'. 32% of the vote for the PQ does not represent winning conditions. That doesn't seem to bother Salmond! |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 5, 2012 12:38:54 GMT
Well, he had what looked (at least arguably) like "winning conditions" back when he announced it.......
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 5, 2012 13:21:11 GMT
I think it's more significant that Scotland hasn't had a referendum on independence before. With a majority at Holyrood, Salmond had to hold one, or there would be real troubles at the grassroots.
Whereas the PQ have lost two referendums, so it's easier to persuade the activists that it makes sense to wait and keep their powder dry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 18:28:56 GMT
That doesn't seem to bother Salmond! Salmond is arrogant enough to think that he can personally create the winning conditions by strutting around and giving a few speeches! If Scotland says votes yes can the athletes still compete for GB ? if not the NO campaign should just put posters of Chris Hoy winning in a GB vest |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 5, 2012 19:00:08 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 5, 2012 21:28:41 GMT
If Scotland says votes yes can the athletes still compete for GB ? It would depend on the IOC rulings on how to handle this - anyone know what they did in 1992 & 2006 when Yugoslavia split up? |
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 5, 2012 21:36:11 GMT
I assume the odd excalves in the seat along the northern border with Labrador are a sign of Quebec defiance over the boundary ruling?
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Post by Philip Davies on Sept 5, 2012 22:15:34 GMT
If Scotland says votes yes can the athletes still compete for GB ? It would depend on the IOC rulings on how to handle this - anyone know what they did in 1992 & 2006 when Yugoslavia split up? The winter Olympics in 2006 was before the Montenegro referendum. Serbia and Montenegro played in the football world cup soon after it so had no effect there. They had separate teams after that with Serbia taking over the Euro 2008 qualifying fixtures. The Czechs and Slovaks kept a united team for the remaining 1994 world cup qualifiers in 1993 post divorce. 1992 was a little bit more complicated. Slovenia and Croatia had separate teams as did Bosnia-Hercegovina as a last minute decision. Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonian athletes had to compete as individuals due to UN sanctions. No teams were allowed. Apart from the three Baltic states the rest of the old USSR had to compete as the "Unified Team" in both winter and summer Olympics of that year and in the euro football championships as the CIS. Russia then took over the USSR's fixtures in the 1994 world cup qualifying leaving Ukraine not too happy IIRC. The IOC didn't seem to be as helpful to the likes of Uzbekistan as it was to Bosnia. If Scotland became independent then they would set up their own National Olympic Committee and would send a team to the next games. Depending on the timing they might be limited on qualifying teams for certain sports. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Sept 5, 2012 22:17:28 GMT
Individual Scottish athletes though might be faced with a tough, potentially career ruining decision if they were in a rowing pair with an English rower for example.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 6, 2012 1:29:46 GMT
That map should be squidged like the other equal-area maps in the Maps thread  |
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 7, 2012 18:20:12 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 7, 2012 18:34:38 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 11, 2013 23:18:20 GMT
On Tuesday, there will be a provincial election in British Columbia. Opinion polls show the NDP (Canada's main left-wing party, more to the left than the Labour Party in Britain) is likely to win a majority and oust a Liberal administration that has been in power since 2001.
Oddly even though BC is reasonably Conservative in Canadian national elections (21 out of 36 seats in 2011), the parties of the right have done very poorly in provincial elections. The NDP previously ran the provincial government from 1991 to 2001.
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Post by Khunanup on May 12, 2013 0:22:42 GMT
BC Liberals are a party of the right (though with Liberal elements like current Premier, Christy Clark). They essentially replaced Social Credit as the rightist alternative to the NDP in 1991 after certain politicians joined from SC's dying corpse and pulled the Liberals rightwards. They've stayed there more or less ever since.
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Post by Devonian on May 12, 2013 7:07:22 GMT
Angus Reid opinion poll for British Colombia from yesterday  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 6:31:45 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on May 15, 2013 16:26:47 GMT
Although Christy Clark has lost her own seat and will have to get back in in a by-election.
I would have thought after Alberta last year people would have stopped writing off the comebac-kid chances of incumbent governments with new premiers.
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