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Post by carlton43 on May 28, 2024 12:47:08 GMT
A blatantly racist witch hunt. If she is not allowed to stand, I hope she publicly condemns Starmer as a racist - as evidenced by the double standards apparent from his embrace of Elphicke into the party. She should make herself available to the broadcasters every day right up to July 4th. "She should make herself available to the broadcasters every day right up to July 4th." That is urging a very high risk strategy but one I would be delighted to see her accept. I like to see a good TV car crash of an evening. |
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Post by norflondon on May 28, 2024 13:04:38 GMT
From a forum protection point of view can be please be careful about suggesting racist motives and make sure there’s evidence of it if doing so, particularly when it references individuals ie Starmer This might be denying black people the right to challenge racism. The report ordered by Starmer, by a QC into Labour stated there was a "hierarchy of racism" found in the Labour Party. Labour Black Socialists say: "STATEMENT: We said all along that Keir Starmer has been blocking Diane Abbott's reinstatement. He has lied to the media, his MPs, @uklabour members & the people. His treatment of @hackneyabbott is just as heinous as Frank Hester's abusive, racist threats to Diane." Having stated that I'd agree direct accusations of racism of any kind need to be considered meticulously with a heavy heart. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 28, 2024 13:15:28 GMT
From a forum protection point of view can be please be careful about suggesting racist motives and make sure there’s evidence of it if doing so, particularly when it references individuals ie Starmer This is denying black people the right to challenge racism. An age old issue. The report ordered by Starmer, by a QC into Labour stated there was a "hierarchy of racism" found in the Labour Party. Labour Black Socialists say: STATEMENT: We said all along that Keir Starmer has been blocking Diane Abbott's reinstatement. He has lied to the media, his MPs, @uklabour members & the people. His treatment of @hackneyabbott is just as heinous as Frank Hester's abusive, racist threats to Diane. Having stated that I'd agree direct accusations of racism of any kind need to be considered meticulously with a heavy heart. It's not racism. It may be hate, loathing of a big mouth loose canon, but racism no. Other Black politicians are on the front bench. It's interesting that everything is racism when a black person is the victim. Ho hum. Its the modern world. |
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Post by stb12 on May 28, 2024 13:17:34 GMT
From a forum protection point of view can be please be careful about suggesting racist motives and make sure there’s evidence of it if doing so, particularly when it references individuals ie Starmer This might be denying black people the right to challenge racism. The report ordered by Starmer, by a QC into Labour stated there was a "hierarchy of racism" found in the Labour Party. Labour Black Socialists say: "STATEMENT: We said all along that Keir Starmer has been blocking Diane Abbott's reinstatement. He has lied to the media, his MPs, @uklabour members & the people. His treatment of @hackneyabbott is just as heinous as Frank Hester's abusive, racist threats to Diane." Having stated that I'd agree direct accusations of racism of any kind need to be considered meticulously with a heavy heart. Diane Abbott herself hasn’t accused Starmer of being a racist as far as I can see yet, not in public anyway. I’m certainly not shutting down discussion about the decisions around this or any issues with the wider culture that people maybe have but I thought a couple of posts were just getting a bit close to making more personal accusations that could be libellous |
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Post by norflondon on May 28, 2024 13:21:18 GMT
Yes I sort of agree with you.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 16:19:10 GMT
Q why doesn't Diane Abbott have the whip back yet? A. because Starmer and his friends have already promised the Hackney seat to someone else. ? Might this seat have been offered to Luke Akehurst? |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on May 28, 2024 16:25:39 GMT
It seems the investigation in Abbott's case finished months ago. She got a formal warning in December 2023 for "engaging in conduct that was in the opinion of the NEC, prejudicial and grossly detrimental to the Labour Party" and was asked to undergo an antisemitism awareness course. She took the course in February (a 2 hours online module) but she wasn't given the whip back then. www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8vv4ep92y8oAnybody who completes one of these ridiculous courses is unfit to hold public office. |
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Post by batman on May 28, 2024 17:11:14 GMT
A blatantly racist witch hunt. If she is not allowed to stand, I hope she publicly condemns Starmer as a racist - as evidenced by the double standards apparent from his embrace of Elphicke into the party. She should make herself available to the broadcasters every day right up to July 4th. let he who is without sin cast the first stone. |
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Post by batman on May 28, 2024 17:13:18 GMT
Q why doesn't Diane Abbott have the whip back yet? A. because Starmer and his friends have already promised the Hackney seat to someone else. ? Might this seat have been offered to Luke Akehurst? I am not aware of any evidence that Luke has intentions of standing for Parliament. |
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Post by johnloony on May 28, 2024 17:13:25 GMT
It seems the investigation in Abbott's case finished months ago. She got a formal warning in December 2023 for "engaging in conduct that was in the opinion of the NEC, prejudicial and grossly detrimental to the Labour Party" and was asked to undergo an antisemitism awareness course. She took the course in February (a 2 hours online module) but she wasn't given the whip back then. www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8vv4ep92y8oAnybody who completes one of these ridiculous courses is unfit to hold public office. If it was only 2 hours of “online” i.e. listening to gibberish and/or answering a few fatuous questions, she might have done it just out of curiosity and gone through the motions for the lols. |
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Post by batman on May 28, 2024 17:13:53 GMT
It seems the investigation in Abbott's case finished months ago. She got a formal warning in December 2023 for "engaging in conduct that was in the opinion of the NEC, prejudicial and grossly detrimental to the Labour Party" and was asked to undergo an antisemitism awareness course. She took the course in February (a 2 hours online module) but she wasn't given the whip back then. www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8vv4ep92y8oAnybody who completes one of these ridiculous courses is unfit to hold public office. not if they learn from it. It's a good course. |
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Post by andrea on May 28, 2024 17:22:09 GMT
The Times' Exclusive:
Diane Abbott will not be allowed to stand for Labour at the general election, The Times understands
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Post by graham on May 28, 2024 17:32:56 GMT
The Times' Exclusive: Diane Abbott will not be allowed to stand for Labour at the general election, The Times understands If true, I hope she stands as an Independent. Many seem to fancy her chances. Moreover, she could do that whilst at the same time attacking Starmer in the media. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 17:42:57 GMT
If it is true that Abbott refused the anti-Semitism training then, in my view, she should not be given the whip back. However, if she has not only undergone the training but been cleared by the inquiry, and that inquiry is now completed, then it's very hard to justify not restoring the whip at the very least
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 28, 2024 17:43:43 GMT
Abbott is a wrong un in my view, her Mao comments particularly irk, but to see her stand would be popcorn grabbing drama.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 17:48:37 GMT
Might this seat have been offered to Luke Akehurst? I am not aware of any evidence that Luke has intentions of standing for Parliament. I'm going off what Michael Crick is saying |
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on May 28, 2024 17:51:57 GMT
The Times' Exclusive: Diane Abbott will not be allowed to stand for Labour at the general election, The Times understands FFS |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 17:53:28 GMT
I am not aware of any evidence that Luke has intentions of standing for Parliament. Dangerous idea recently tbf |
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Post by gerrardwinstanley on May 28, 2024 17:59:59 GMT
Christ, Luke Akehurst - how low can Labour go?
Akehurst would probably be the worst candidate possible for this seat, so I hope - in some crazy reality - it is him. It would drag me out the house to campaign against Labour every waking moment.
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Post by jakegb on May 28, 2024 18:01:20 GMT
Abbott is a wrong un in my view, her Mao comments particularly irk, but to see her stand would be popcorn grabbing drama. Indeed - definitely a contender for sore loser watch (if she doesn't stand as the official Lab candidate). |
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