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Post by cathyc on Jun 28, 2024 12:27:02 GMT
Rather depressingly but not surprisingly, no one here has commented & condemned the Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland being called a f*****g pa*i by a Reform canvasser out on the streets of Clacton. The comment and the one about shooting boat migrants is appalling and should be front page news! Farage now 1/7 or 87% to win here following Labour's withdrawal of support for their candidate Why should the stupid opinions of a Reform canvasser be front page news? Like most political activists he is irrelevant to whether or not Nigel Farage or any other Reform candidate should be elected. And yes his views are highly offensive. Many an Indian, or person of Indian heritage, that I have known would have chinned him for some such a grotesque insult. Nothing worse in their eyes than being mistaken as Pakistani. Is that the extent of your issue with his comments? That he mislocated Sunak's heritage within the subcontinent. Do you think that's what he meant by calling him a f***** p***? Or are you just being a f****** d*** again?
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jun 28, 2024 12:46:38 GMT
Why should the stupid opinions of a Reform canvasser be front page news? Like most political activists he is irrelevant to whether or not Nigel Farage or any other Reform candidate should be elected. And yes his views are highly offensive. Many an Indian, or person of Indian heritage, that I have known would have chinned him for some such a grotesque insult. Nothing worse in their eyes than being mistaken as Pakistani. Is that the extent of your issue with his comments? That he mislocated Sunak's heritage within the subcontinent. Do you think that's what he meant by calling him a f***** p***? Or are you just being a f****** d*** again? I am not remotely offended by his comments, nor do I care about the opinions of some non-entity political activist. I was merely pointing what people of Indian heritage would be most likely to be offended by. Nor do I remotely care about the views of someone as utterly pathetic as yourself who rather than spell out words types as string of ****.
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Post by cathyc on Jun 28, 2024 14:07:55 GMT
Is that the extent of your issue with his comments? That he mislocated Sunak's heritage within the subcontinent. Do you think that's what he meant by calling him a f***** p***? Or are you just being a f****** d*** again? I am not remotely offended by his comments, nor do I care about the opinions of some non-entity political activist. I was merely pointing what people of Indian heritage would be most likely to be offended by. Nor do I remotely care about the views of someone as utterly pathetic as yourself who rather than spell out words types as string of ****. I didn't ask if you were offended. Nobody thought you might be. The question was whether the Reform activist really was just geographically-challenged or was he being an ignorant and lazy racist. He says that Farage was unaware of his opinions. I doubt if anyone has been in his presence for more than two seconds before he unloaded a bucket of his bile.
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Post by observer on Jun 28, 2024 14:31:33 GMT
There's a good analysis of this guy's activities by Mahyar Tousi on Tousi TV. Andre Parker, the man at the centre of it, is an actor. On his website he claims a specialism in 'rough talking '. A clip on his website shows him talking as himself...in an entirely neutral accent. Very middle class actually. Yet when C4 filmed him in Clacton he was rough talking... quite clearly in actor mode. Tousi says he is a fake, a set-up, to smear Reform. Given C4's political stance it is perfectly possible. What did C4 know ? Perhaps the police should charge the guy. That would flush the truth out
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Post by cathyc on Jun 28, 2024 14:37:41 GMT
There's a good analysis of this guy's activities by Mahyar Tousi on Tousi TV. Andre Parker, the man at the centre of it, is an actor. On his website he claims a specialism in 'rough talking '. A clip on his website shows him talking as himself...in an entirely neutral accent. Very middle class actually. Yet when C4 filmed him in Clacton he was rough talking... quite clearly in actor mode. Tousi says he is a fake, a set-up, to smear Reform. Given C4's political stance it is perfectly possible. What did C4 know ? Perhaps the police should charge the guy. That would flush the truth out Were the others actors too?
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Post by right on Jun 28, 2024 14:40:40 GMT
There's a good analysis of this guy's activities by Mahyar Tousi on Tousi TV. Andre Parker, the man at the centre of it, is an actor. On his website he claims a specialism in 'rough talking '. A clip on his website shows him talking as himself...in an entirely neutral accent. Very middle class actually. Yet when C4 filmed him in Clacton he was rough talking... quite clearly in actor mode. Tousi says he is a fake, a set-up, to smear Reform. Given C4's political stance it is perfectly possible. What did C4 know ? Perhaps the police should charge the guy. That would flush the truth out I doubt it is as simple as an actor and I also don't see what motive John Snow's Channel Four has in helping the Tories The Tories do have a strong motive in doing this but I doubt they'd think of this and I doubt they'd manage to infiltrate him in at just the right moment He probably believes it and is probably putting on an accent because he thinks it will help him fit in
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Post by AlltheGoodUsernamesAreTaken on Jun 28, 2024 14:47:13 GMT
Whatever the truth Farage and Reform have acted quick enough to paint themselves as the victim of a political smear job. A page out of the Trump playbook.
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 28, 2024 14:54:04 GMT
Does anyone else feel that the reprehensible comments of Reform activists recently filmed in Clacton actually reinforce Reform support rather than damage it? They are saying what Reform supporters actually think but are mostly afraid to say in public with Farage condemning them and claiming they are just members of the public who turned up to help so absolves himself and Reform of any responsibility whatsoever. Whilst social media and the main stream media works itself into a frenzy about nasty Reform activists and candidates Reform meanwhile are laughing all the way to the ballot box. Reform thrive on the oxygen of publicity and even negative publicity that would destroy any other candidate is helping Reform thrive. Yes. I do. That is more than half the point of Reform and of Brexit. It is simple kick-back about being marginalised in one's own country at the behest of incomers about what we can and do say about anything. About our jokes, our terminology, and our absolute right to cause offence if we want to. That is the very essence of the freedom that the uber-woke are seeking to deny us. It will not end well. I hope. Farage is there to appeal to life's losers .
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 28, 2024 14:56:25 GMT
Also a member of the far left union Equity. I am not one for believing it was a set up, but if it wasn't then Channel 4 has terrible luck because it does look a bit dodgy.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 28, 2024 14:59:31 GMT
Yes. I do. That is more than half the point of Reform and of Brexit. It is simple kick-back about being marginalised in one's own country at the behest of incomers about what we can and do say about anything. About our jokes, our terminology, and our absolute right to cause offence if we want to. That is the very essence of the freedom that the uber-woke are seeking to deny us. It will not end well. I hope. Farage is there to appeal to life's losers . Then I imagine he is of no interest to me but has massive appeal to you?
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 28, 2024 15:10:05 GMT
The overwhelming majority of professional actors are Equity members, no matter their politics. It has had at least one member of the Conservative Party as its President (John Barron, and this was when the union was at its most militant!), making it rather unusual amongst trade unions.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 28, 2024 15:10:43 GMT
Also a member of the far left union Equity Que? If you mean it has prominent left wingers, then yes. But it is at the end of the day a trade union for actors and similar professions, and they will obviously have a variety of political views.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 28, 2024 15:17:35 GMT
Also a member of the far left union Equity Que? If you mean it has prominent left wingers, then yes. But it is at the end of the day a trade union for actors and similar professions, and they will obviously have a variety of political views. It's not just prominent left wing people in it though, is it? It has quite prominently allied itself with left-wing causes, such as on Palestine. It's also not just the union he's a member of though. He also works in television and his specialist skill is "secret filming". The most charitable interpretation I can give C4 is that they were so consumed with getting Farage and calling him a racist, because we all know what their political stance is, they didn't do their due diligence.
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Post by observer on Jun 28, 2024 15:20:00 GMT
Has anyone actually seen/heard the guy talking...and compared how he speaks normally with how he was speaking for C4? The so-called Left has form on this, so I strongly suspect it was a put-up job. They prefer smear to debate. This goes back to employing the same tropes against Brexit and UKIP. I know some people desperately want it to be true. That doesn't mean it is true. I'm calling C4 BS
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Post by observer on Jun 28, 2024 15:25:52 GMT
I've learned more! It's fishy. Apparently the Telegraph challenged him about being an actor and he denied it. He has since admitted it. It's looking -so far - like a new depth for the so-called Left
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 28, 2024 15:31:08 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 28, 2024 15:43:59 GMT
The overwhelming majority of professional actors are Equity members, no matter their politics. It has had at least one member of the Conservative Party as its President (John Barron, and this was when the union was at its most militant!), making it rather unusual amongst trade unions. He didn't get where he was then by being a Labour Party supporter.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 28, 2024 15:46:16 GMT
The overwhelming majority of professional actors are Equity members, no matter their politics. It has had at least one member of the Conservative Party as its President (John Barron, and this was when the union was at its most militant!), making it rather unusual amongst trade unions. He didn't get where he was then by being a Labour Party supporter. Super, David, really super.
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Post by observer on Jun 28, 2024 15:46:43 GMT
Steve Bannon warned some time ago that the political and media establishment would move against Farage if he re-entered active politics
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 28, 2024 15:53:29 GMT
There's a good analysis of this guy's activities by Mahyar Tousi on Tousi TV. Andre Parker, the man at the centre of it, is an actor. On his website he claims a specialism in 'rough talking '. A clip on his website shows him talking as himself...in an entirely neutral accent. Very middle class actually. Yet when C4 filmed him in Clacton he was rough talking... quite clearly in actor mode. Tousi says he is a fake, a set-up, to smear Reform. Given C4's political stance it is perfectly possible. What did C4 know ? Perhaps the police should charge the guy. That would flush the truth out I doubt it is as simple as an actor and I also don't see what motive John Snow's Channel Four has in helping the Tories You might be overthinking it. They're anti Farage - they don't want the narrative he promotes (which is the opposite to theirs) to be promoted. I don't think they would be thinking that Reform are going to damage the Conservatives therefore its worth promoting them. The Conservatives are finished in this election anyway - its not like its a close run thing where taking a few percent off the Conservative share is going to be the difference between Labour winning or losing. And in any case its simplistic to think Reform only pose a threat to the Conservatives. They're going to be Labour's problem when they're in government and it won't be just near misses in the likes of Heywood & Middleton..
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