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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 23, 2024 14:46:10 GMT
Brent East under various iterations - Ken Livingstone, Sarah Teather and Dawn Butler There's a great (possibly apocryphal) anecdote about Sarah Teather canvassing a house somewhere, and being very irritated that the man living there was not interested in voting Lib Dem. And then looking blankly when the man said he worked with her. And then looking even more blankly when the man pointed out that he was John Spellar. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 14:46:26 GMT
Brent East under various iterations - Ken Livingstone, Sarah Teather and Dawn Butler Great stuff - love Livingstone and Butler. Teather - I don't think so ... |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 23, 2024 14:53:31 GMT
Bermondsey & Old Southwark - Coyle's been in hot water, and Hughes's 1983 campaign speaks for itself. I don't know enough about Bob Mellish to comment. No, that one doesn't work. I don't think even people who dislike Hughes would ever think of him as a bad local representative or, a tendency for sanctimony aside, a poor MP in the other sense, and while Mellish was a colourful figure he was a distinguished parliamentarian and a very capable administrative politician (even whipping is an administrative affair, fundamentally), as well as an active local MP in an era when that wasn't the norm. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 23, 2024 14:59:02 GMT
A sober Neil Coyle is also a fine person to have as your local representative, and there's no indication he has fallen off the wagon.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 23, 2024 16:01:22 GMT
Brent East under various iterations - Ken Livingstone, Sarah Teather and Dawn Butler There's a great (possibly apocryphal) anecdote about Sarah Teather canvassing a house somewhere, and being very irritated that the man living there was not interested in voting Lib Dem. And then looking blankly when the man said he worked with her. And then looking even more blankly when the man pointed out that he was John Spellar. Anyone less likely to vote Lib Dem is difficult to imagine.  |
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Post by sanders on Oct 23, 2024 16:06:39 GMT
Bermondsey & Old Southwark - Coyle's been in hot water, and Hughes's 1983 campaign speaks for itself. I don't know enough about Bob Mellish to comment. No, that one doesn't work. I don't think even people who dislike Hughes would ever think of him as a bad local representative or, a tendency for sanctimony aside, a poor MP in the other sense, and while Mellish was a colourful figure he was a distinguished parliamentarian and a very capable administrative politician (even whipping is an administrative affair, fundamentally), as well as an active local MP in an era when that wasn't the norm. Fair enough. I guess I was too fixated on the 1983 by-election campaign which, to me at least, still sullies his reputation, and we have not defined terms in this thread. |
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Post by batman on Oct 23, 2024 16:25:39 GMT
Rochdale has had an infamously terrible record of representation, though there are often gaps between the embarrassing MPs. Then pity poor Littleborough. (Exception in italics) Geoffrey Dickens, Chris Davies, Phil Woolas, Lorna Fitzsimons, Paul Rowen, Simon Danczuk, Tony Lloyd, George Galloway, Paul Waugh (possibly) I disagree about Tony Lloyd. He wasn't perfect but he was a decent human being who showed great personal kindness to a great friend of mine. OK so I'm biased. |
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Post by sanders on Oct 23, 2024 16:29:42 GMT
Then pity poor Littleborough. (Exception in italics) Geoffrey Dickens, Chris Davies, Phil Woolas, Lorna Fitzsimons, Paul Rowen, Simon Danczuk, Tony Lloyd, George Galloway, Paul Waugh (possibly) I disagree about Tony Lloyd. He wasn't perfect but he was a decent human being who showed great personal kindness to a great friend of mine. OK so I'm biased. I agree. I think Paul Waugh is pretty decent too from his appearances on the Westminster Hour on Radio 4. Obviously anyone is better than George Galloway. |
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Post by batman on Oct 23, 2024 16:30:20 GMT
There's a great (possibly apocryphal) anecdote about Sarah Teather canvassing a house somewhere, and being very irritated that the man living there was not interested in voting Lib Dem. And then looking blankly when the man said he worked with her. And then looking even more blankly when the man pointed out that he was John Spellar. Anyone less likely to vote Lib Dem is difficult to imagine. He has quite often given talks on the fringe at Labour Party conferences about why he so dislikes the Lib Dems. |
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Post by greenhert on Oct 23, 2024 18:43:17 GMT
Brent East under various iterations - Ken Livingstone, Sarah Teather and Dawn Butler There's a great (possibly apocryphal) anecdote about Sarah Teather canvassing a house somewhere, and being very irritated that the man living there was not interested in voting Lib Dem. And then looking blankly when the man said he worked with her. And then looking even more blankly when the man pointed out that he was John Spellar. Most likely apocryphal-where did you hear it? |
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Post by mattbewilson on Oct 23, 2024 19:18:09 GMT
I know he was only one man but anyone who lives in Leicester knows Janner more than Vaz, Webbe, etc. possibly one of the worst human beings in the house
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 19:38:09 GMT
I know he was only one man but anyone who lives in Leicester knows Janner more than Vaz, Webbe, etc. possibly one of the worst human beings in the house Some agree, some disagree. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 23, 2024 19:49:11 GMT
Different constituency, of course. A very complicated affair, not helped by Carl Beech being one of the accusers or by repeated displays of sloppiness from the police.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 23, 2024 20:16:56 GMT
There's a great (possibly apocryphal) anecdote about Sarah Teather canvassing a house somewhere, and being very irritated that the man living there was not interested in voting Lib Dem. And then looking blankly when the man said he worked with her. And then looking even more blankly when the man pointed out that he was John Spellar. Most likely apocryphal-where did you hear it? I heard it from a friend who used to work for Labour. This was a long time ago though - Spellar's London house was apparently in an unlikely part of town. Dredging my memory - Bromley and Chislehurst in 2006. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 23, 2024 20:22:07 GMT
Then pity poor Littleborough. (Exception in italics) Geoffrey Dickens, Chris Davies, Phil Woolas, Lorna Fitzsimons, Paul Rowen, Simon Danczuk, Tony Lloyd, George Galloway, Paul Waugh (possibly) I disagree about Tony Lloyd. He wasn't perfect but he was a decent human being who showed great personal kindness to a great friend of mine. OK so I'm biased. Tony Lloyd was an extremely nice man who was well-liked and respected across the city and across political lines. Even staunch Tories in Stretford used to view him very positively and he was of that old-fashioned type who saw people as opponents not as enemies, and actually had interests outside politics. And he once bought a used washing machine from my mate after seeing it in Loot. |
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Post by spqr on Oct 23, 2024 20:28:26 GMT
Most likely apocryphal-where did you hear it? I heard it from a friend who used to work for Labour. This was a long time ago though - Spellar's London house was apparently in an unlikely part of town. Dredging my memory - Bromley and Chislehurst in 2006. Spellar lived in Bromley as prior to becoming an MP he was employed by the EETPU (the electricians union), which was based there. |
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Post by sanders on Oct 23, 2024 20:28:36 GMT
The Leicester said about this city's former MPs, the better.
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Post by batman on Oct 23, 2024 20:41:59 GMT
I heard it from a friend who used to work for Labour. This was a long time ago though - Spellar's London house was apparently in an unlikely part of town. Dredging my memory - Bromley and Chislehurst in 2006. Spellar lived in Bromley as prior to becoming an MP he was employed by the EETPU (the electricians union), which was based there. he was also the candidate for Bromley in the 1970 general election, when he was in his early twenties. |
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Post by sanders on Oct 24, 2024 5:02:50 GMT
The shift in Leicester politics was long overdue and most welcome. The ever-present Mayor Peter Soulsby has also been around for too long. As I've said elsewhere, Shockat Adam is a fine MP. I'm sure the new Tory in East is a decent upgrade on too. Because compared to Claudia Webbe, anyone is.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 24, 2024 10:35:29 GMT
Yes, I didn't quite word that accurately. Gaps between the outright disgraces and the merely embarrassing would be better. Yeah, that fits for Lisbon Liz and Threesome Lorna. Not heard that one before, do I really need to know what it refers to? |
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