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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 23, 2024 13:49:35 GMT
Another one with occasional gaps has occurred to me - Richmond (and Barnes / Park).
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 13:49:41 GMT
Rochdale has had an infamously terrible record of representation, though there are often gaps between the embarrassing MPs. Then pity poor Littleborough. (Exception in italics) Geoffrey Dickens, Chris Davies, Phil Woolas, Lorna Fitzsimons, Paul Rowen, Simon Danczuk, Tony Lloyd, George Galloway, Paul Waugh (possibly) Do you mean Rochdale? Liz Lynne and Tony Lloyd are good MP's. Paul Rowen was invisible, Laura Fitzsimons was a female Akehurst. Littleborough - it was Dickens, Davies, then Woolas then Abrahams. |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 23, 2024 13:51:35 GMT
Oh yes, one so literally close to home that I forgot: Shrewsbury (sometimes 'Shrewsbury and Atcham') though the new MP ought to represent a break in the pattern. My great aunt was quite complementary about Langford-Holt for a Tory, he knew the town, made a decent short speech when opening events and would attend the opening of an envelope and listen to people moan after wards. I suspect she would have been very rude about Daniel K and she was very good at being very rude. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 23, 2024 13:52:27 GMT
Ludlow has had some pretty terrible MPs (and two were in succession: Cockeram and Gill) but More and Dunne, though very far from my taste politically, were effective and conscientious local representatives, as was Green. Hereford has had a very bad run, come to think of it, though mostly so low-key you'd never notice. Montgomery has had quite a few embarrassing MPs but there's never been a consecutive run of them.
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 23, 2024 13:56:44 GMT
My great aunt was quite complementary about Langford-Holt for a Tory, he knew the town, made a decent short speech when opening events and would attend the opening of an envelope and listen to people moan after wards. I suspect she would have been very rude about Daniel K and she was very good at being very rude. He was a bit of an idiot but was a well-meaning local MP of a certain type, yes. I wouldn't start the dreadful run with him but his immediate successor. As for Big Danny K, well, local reaction to his lack of serious interest in the whole 'Baby Deaths' scandal was quite something, as you can see in July's results (boundary changes were, of course, also awful for Conservative prospects, but that wasn't the only reason for his huge loss). |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 13:57:56 GMT
Windsor has had a pretty bad run as well. Alan Glyn and Adam Afriye. Paul Flynn's bio book is hilarious - he was Alan Glyn's pair and it's very funny. He was an alcoholic and spoke once a year about defence. Every time he was worse. Adam Afriye was supposed to be a up-coming MP but wasn't. He lost all his money, I don't know why.... |
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Post by cathyc on Oct 23, 2024 13:58:12 GMT
Then pity poor Littleborough. (Exception in italics) Geoffrey Dickens, Chris Davies, Phil Woolas, Lorna Fitzsimons, Paul Rowen, Simon Danczuk, Tony Lloyd, George Galloway, Paul Waugh (possibly) Do you mean Rochdale? Liz Lynne and Tony Lloyd are good MP's. Paul Rowen was invisible, Laura Fitzsimons was a female Akehurst. Littleborough - it was Dickens, Davies, then Woolas then Abrahams. According to former neighbours of mine, Littleborough itself was with Saddleworth 83-97 then in Rochdale. So not Smith, Lynne or Abrahams. That may be wrong. On the same basis of somewhere moving between seats what about Billericay's woeful run? |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 23, 2024 14:05:06 GMT
Windsor has had a pretty bad run as well. Alan Glyn and Adam Afriye. Paul Flynn's bio book is hilarious - he was Alan Glyn's pair and it's very funny. He was an alcoholic and spoke once a year about defence. Every time he was worse. Adam Afriye was supposed to be a up-coming MP but wasn't. He lost all his money, I don't know why.... You are forgetting the corrupt Mr Treend betweem them. Glyn was absolutely barking mad by his last term. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 23, 2024 14:05:40 GMT
Windsor has had a pretty bad run as well. Alan Glyn and Adam Afriye. Paul Flynn's bio book is hilarious - he was Alan Glyn's pair and it's very funny. He was an alcoholic and spoke once a year about defence. Every time he was worse. Alan Glyn is supposed to be the real MP behind the well known anecdote about a long-serving useless MP who refuses to retire, so the local party hatches a plan to invite him to a big party to celebrate his long service as he was nearing the end of his career, only for him to completely get the wrong message and announce that he had cancelled his plans to retire because all his constituents appreciated him so much. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 14:06:43 GMT
Extremely vehement anti-smoker. Indeed! And she was very pro-EU. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 23, 2024 14:23:10 GMT
Windsor has had a pretty bad run as well. Alan Glyn and Adam Afriye. Paul Flynn's bio book is hilarious - he was Alan Glyn's pair and it's very funny. He was an alcoholic and spoke once a year about defence. Every time he was worse. Adam Afriye was supposed to be a up-coming MP but wasn't. He lost all his money, I don't know why.... Afriye and his attempted coup is a sadly-forgotten moment in political history. In a parallel world, he is facing Chuka Umunna at PMQs. In their own heads, admittedly. |
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Post by YL on Oct 23, 2024 14:27:33 GMT
Do you mean Rochdale? Liz Lynne and Tony Lloyd are good MP's. Paul Rowen was invisible, Laura Fitzsimons was a female Akehurst. Littleborough - it was Dickens, Davies, then Woolas then Abrahams. According to former neighbours of mine, Littleborough itself was with Saddleworth 83-97 then in Rochdale. So not Smith, Lynne or Abrahams. That may be wrong. On the same basis of somewhere moving between seats what about Billericay's woeful run? Littleborough has indeed only been in Rochdale since 1997; before that it was in Littleborough & Saddleworth from 1983 and Heywood & Royton before that. So it escaped Cyril Smith and also escaped Phil Woolas, who was first elected for OE&S in 1997 (having been beaten by Chris Davies in the 1995 by-election in Lit & Sad). Milnrow was in OE&S from 1997 to 2010 but otherwise has been with Littleborough. So it had Woolas, Danczuk and Galloway, but not Smith. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2024 14:28:09 GMT
Bermondsey & Old Southwark - Coyle's been in hot water, and Hughes's 1983 campaign speaks for itself. I don't know enough about Bob Mellish to comment.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 14:31:06 GMT
Alan Glyn and Adam Afriye. Paul Flynn's bio book is hilarious - he was Alan Glyn's pair and it's very funny. He was an alcoholic and spoke once a year about defence. Every time he was worse. Alan Glyn is supposed to be the real MP behind the well known anecdote about a long-serving useless MP who refuses to retire, so the local party hatches a plan to invite him to a big party to celebrate his long service as he was nearing the end of his career, only for him to completely get the wrong message and announce that he had cancelled his plans to retire because all his constituents appreciated him so much. Absolutely - apparently the Tory dowagers loved Alan Glyn even though the Tory Conservative Association wanted him out. His daughter was a Tory candidate in 1987 - Sheffield Brightside - there is nothing about Mary Glyn, whatever she was! |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 23, 2024 14:33:36 GMT
Brent East under various iterations - Ken Livingstone, Sarah Teather and Dawn Butler
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 23, 2024 14:34:29 GMT
Alan Glyn is supposed to be the real MP behind the well known anecdote about a long-serving useless MP who refuses to retire, so the local party hatches a plan to invite him to a big party to celebrate his long service as he was nearing the end of his career, only for him to completely get the wrong message and announce that he had cancelled his plans to retire because all his constituents appreciated him so much. Absolutely - apparently the Tory dowagers loved Alan Glyn even though the Tory Conservative Association wanted him out. His daughter was a Tory candidate in 1987 - Sheffield Brightside - there is nothing about Mary Glyn, whatever she was! She's a councillor in K&C. Married a chap from uni who writes decent history books. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2024 14:37:19 GMT
Brent East under various iterations - Ken Livingstone, Sarah Teather and Dawn Butler Yeah that's a good example lol. |
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Post by cathyc on Oct 23, 2024 14:38:04 GMT
According to former neighbours of mine, Littleborough itself was with Saddleworth 83-97 then in Rochdale. So not Smith, Lynne or Abrahams. That may be wrong. On the same basis of somewhere moving between seats what about Billericay's woeful run? Littleborough has indeed only been in Rochdale since 1997; before that it was in Littleborough & Saddleworth from 1983 and Heywood & Royton before that. So it escaped Cyril Smith and also escaped Phil Woolas, who was first elected for OE&S in 1997 (having been beaten by Chris Davies in the 1995 by-election in Lit & Sad). Milnrow was in OE&S from 1997 to 2010 but otherwise has been with Littleborough. So it had Woolas, Danczuk and Galloway, but not Smith. And Dickens. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 23, 2024 14:38:20 GMT
Absolutely - apparently the Tory dowagers loved Alan Glyn even though the Tory Conservative Association wanted him out. His daughter was a Tory candidate in 1987 - Sheffield Brightside - there is nothing about Mary Glyn, whatever she was! She's a councillor in K&C. Married a chap from uni who writes decent history books. Ah, thank you! Must be another surname? I've checked - she is Cllr Mary Weale. She's a liberal Tory moderate, he seems definitely not political! |
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Post by right on Oct 23, 2024 14:40:59 GMT
Bermondsey & Old Southwark - Coyle's been in hot water, and Hughes's 1983 campaign speaks for itself. I don't know enough about Bob Mellish to comment. Hughes was a top notch local MP by all accounts, although clearly not enough by 2015 |
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