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Post by Foggy on Jul 25, 2024 0:56:40 GMT
Her surname is Riba i Giner, with a lower case i. Autocorrect often has a tough time accepting this. A list of 120 names and political parties that include an incredible number of diacritics, but the one capitalisation error (not even a typo) is spotted. Ain’t no-one getting away with anything on this forum. Great work from both of you. Bravo. I confess there is one Slovak diacritic in the list which I'd never yet encountered (I have been to Bratislava once but never learnt the lingo), though a quick Google suggests it's correct. There were three other instances of capitalisation I had to check but again, they all appear consistent with how those people choose to spell their own surnames even if those choices perhaps fail to reflect their origins. My old Proofreading lecturer would be well chuffed with me. |
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Post by riccimarsh on Jul 25, 2024 2:12:48 GMT
A list of 120 names and political parties that include an incredible number of diacritics, but the one capitalisation error (not even a typo) is spotted. Ain’t no-one getting away with anything on this forum. Great work from both of you. Bravo. I confess there is one Slovak diacritic in the list which I'd never yet encountered (I have been to Bratislava once but never learnt the lingo), though a quick Google suggests it's correct. There were three other instances of capitalisation I had to check but again, they all appear consistent with how those people choose to spell their own surnames even if those choices perhaps fail to reflect their origins. My old Proofreading lecturer would be well chuffed with me. I’m a proof-reader in the science field so I absolutely love spotting errors such as these… you are a hero!! |
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Post by johnloony on Jul 25, 2024 6:13:49 GMT
EU Parliament committees' chairs and vice-chairs Committee on Culture and Education
3rd Vice-Chair: Diana Riba I Giner (Greens/EFA, ES) Her surname is Riba i Giner, with a lower case i. Autocorrect often has a tough time accepting this. I have always disliked the fact that the first person pronoun in English is a capitalised I instead of a normal i. I like languages which have a word i. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 25, 2024 8:43:02 GMT
EU Parliament committees' chairs and vice-chairs Committee on Culture and Education
3rd Vice-Chair: Diana Riba I Giner (Greens/EFA, ES) Her surname is Riba i Giner, with a lower case i. Autocorrect often has a tough time accepting this. Sounds like a drink that might make one sick. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 25, 2024 8:48:37 GMT
A list of 120 names and political parties that include an incredible number of diacritics, but the one capitalisation error (not even a typo) is spotted. Ain’t no-one getting away with anything on this forum. Great work from both of you. Bravo. I confess there is one Slovak diacritic in the list which I'd never yet encountered (I have been to Bratislava once but never learnt the lingo), though a quick Google suggests it's correct. There were three other instances of capitalisation I had to check but again, they all appear consistent with how those people choose to spell their own surnames even if those choices perhaps fail to reflect their origins. My old Proofreading lecturer would be well chuffed with me. How does one access these from a standard keyboard? |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 25, 2024 11:13:08 GMT
But what happens if the chair and all four vice chairs are absent? Disgraceful lack of planning by not having a fifth vice chair.
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jul 25, 2024 14:54:50 GMT
I confess there is one Slovak diacritic in the list which I'd never yet encountered (I have been to Bratislava once but never learnt the lingo), though a quick Google suggests it's correct. There were three other instances of capitalisation I had to check but again, they all appear consistent with how those people choose to spell their own surnames even if those choices perhaps fail to reflect their origins. My old Proofreading lecturer would be well chuffed with me. How does one access these from a standard keyboard? Use something called Unicode. For example, on Windows, you press Control + Shift + U simultaneously I believe, then enter a 3 digit numerical code (which relates to the specific accents or other variety of diacritical mark). |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jul 25, 2024 15:01:08 GMT
I prefer Belgium to most other countries in Europe. Somebody had to but glad it wasn't me. The food and the beer can be excellent. Some towns are delightful. Train service good. The west has some nice countryside. BUT! Difficult motorways with service areas often even worse than Britain and can have obvious thieves and prostitutes and dealers. Much of it flat, nondescript and drab. Much bad architecture and wretched post industrial squalour. To respond your criticisms (some of which are fair) - 1.) Service areas - some of them may be a little drab, but this is a great excuse to use the good quality and reasonably priced Belgian railway system while you are there! 2.) A lot of Flanders isn't particularly pretty or varied in landscapes, but in contrast you do have the beautiful Wallonian Ardennes to compensate. 3.) I think the architecture is something Belgium can be reasonably proud of, however I do actually enjoy heavy industry, and that sort of style of city, which I suspect you don't. |
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Post by iang on Jul 25, 2024 15:01:16 GMT
Don't think anyone has commented, but former jockey Nina Carberry did indeed get elected as an MEP in Ireland for FG
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jul 25, 2024 15:03:03 GMT
Not my impression from when I visited - parts of Brussels were in a worse state! Maybe you should work with their tourist board to develop their brand. I can see 'Visit Liege, it's better than Molenbeek' as catching on. Lol |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jul 25, 2024 15:05:30 GMT
Liege?! Shit?! Probably one of the nicest cities in Belgium I like Liège and lived there for a bit, but it is grimy and often quite dodgy. Certainly not somewhere the Eurocrats would have wanted to be. Grimy is a good thing to me, although I may be alone in that and I certainly didn't perceive the city centre as grimy at all. The Eurocrats should be made to live in a city that reflects the European average, whether they like it or not. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 25, 2024 18:01:59 GMT
How does one access these from a standard keyboard? Use something called Unicode. For example, on Windows, you press Control + Shift + U simultaneously I believe, then enter a 3 digit numerical code (which relates to the specific accents or other variety of diacritical mark). Thank you. That is a hell of a lot of work for each one. |
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Post by Foggy on Jul 25, 2024 20:21:49 GMT
I confess there is one Slovak diacritic in the list which I'd never yet encountered (I have been to Bratislava once but never learnt the lingo), though a quick Google suggests it's correct. There were three other instances of capitalisation I had to check but again, they all appear consistent with how those people choose to spell their own surnames even if those choices perhaps fail to reflect their origins. My old Proofreading lecturer would be well chuffed with me. How does one access these from a standard keyboard? For the accents I need frequently in languages I actually know, there's a Unicode shortcut which is usually Alt + a few number keys. Alternatively you can find your language settings on Windows and download another virtual keyboard, then near the bottom right of your desktop (between the volume controls and the clock & date) you should be able to hover over ENG and change to another language. I can for instance switch from UK English to Canadian English, Belgian French, Austrian German, Castillian Spanish, Galician or Welsh in just two clicks. If you end up working with a whole different alphabet like Arabic/Cyrillic/Greek/Hebrew then you're better off with an overlay telling you which key will do what. One of my exes was able to make Korean characters appear on screen with just a few strokes on a QWERTY keyboard and that absolutely blew my mind (and still does). |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jul 25, 2024 21:23:24 GMT
My Android phone allows for a number of keyboards to be installed at once. For the English keyboard when I long-press "a" it offers à, á, ä, æ, and a few others.
I've just installed Slovakian while it's "on topic". When I hard press "l" it offers ļ, ľ, etc
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jul 26, 2024 1:53:03 GMT
Use something called Unicode. For example, on Windows, you press Control + Shift + U simultaneously I believe, then enter a 3 digit numerical code (which relates to the specific accents or other variety of diacritical mark). Thank you. That is a hell of a lot of work for each one. You're welcome. Unfortunately, yes it is a lot of work; one of the methods mentioned below is easier (indeed the smartphone is by far the easiest, just hold down on the English equivalent of the letter and every single diacritical variation of that letter which is installed the with the keyboard appears). |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 26, 2024 6:23:48 GMT
How does one access these from a standard keyboard? For the accents I need frequently in languages I actually know, there's a Unicode shortcut which is usually Alt + a few number keys. Alternatively you can find your language settings on Windows and download another virtual keyboard, then near the bottom right of your desktop (between the volume controls and the clock & date) you should be able to hover over ENG and change to another language. I can for instance switch from UK English to Canadian English, Belgian French, Austrian German, Castillian Spanish, Galician or Welsh in just two clicks. If you end up working with a whole different alphabet like Arabic/Cyrillic/Greek/Hebrew then you're better off with an overlay telling you which key will do what. One of my exes was able to make Korean characters appear on screen with just a few strokes on a QWERTY keyboard and that absolutely blew my mind (and still does). Thank you Foggy. I think the use of a virtual keyboard with drop down menu for 4 languages would be my answer. Most helpful. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 26, 2024 6:29:11 GMT
Thank you. That is a hell of a lot of work for each one. You're welcome. Unfortunately, yes it is a lot of work; one of the methods mentioned below is easier (indeed the smartphone is by far the easiest, just hold down on the English equivalent of the letter and every single diacritical variation of that letter which is installed the with the keyboard appears). Thank you. I have an Apple phone and will try that. If a facility available on a mobile one would hope that it could be made available through a keyboard as well? Most helpful DOTW. Is it possible to do the same with mathematics symbols? And are you aware of any high class supplier of keyboards that might accept bespoke orders for such matters and for a personal keyboard layout? |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jul 26, 2024 15:08:09 GMT
You're welcome. Unfortunately, yes it is a lot of work; one of the methods mentioned below is easier (indeed the smartphone is by far the easiest, just hold down on the English equivalent of the letter and every single diacritical variation of that letter which is installed the with the keyboard appears). Thank you. I have an Apple phone and will try that. If a facility available on a mobile one would hope that it could be made available through a keyboard as well? Most helpful DOTW. Is it possible to do the same with mathematics symbols? And are you aware of any high class supplier of keyboards that might accept bespoke orders for such matters and for a personal keyboard layout? To answer your questions in order: Firstly, the functionality to select additional keyboards holding down a letter on mobile keyboards relies on the functionality of the touchscreen to detect different inputs to a level that a traditional manual switched keyboard is unable to - hence you need a custom keyboard with additional keys for additional characters. Secondly, I don't believe the standard mobile keyboard contains a large collection of mathematical symbols, this would require the use of a custom mobile keyboard, from the App Store in your case as an iPhone user - for example SciKey - apps.apple.com/us/app/scikey-scientific-keyboard/id927863083 (full instructions on how to install are included). Finally, for a manual custom keyboard, it is possible for a bespoke order to be built - I would recommend Cherry, their keyboards are tried and tested, and super reliable in my opinion. I've had a standard one with my gaming PC for years, it's great to type on and I use it intensively with no issue at all. Here's the link to their custom keyboard building website - it will set you back quite a bit money-wise, but a good investment if you are intending to use it for a long time: cherryxtrfy.com/custom-keyboard-builderThey have a contact page here if you wish to enquire about creating your specific order, because the process can be quite complex to get it perfect: cherryxtrfy.com/contact/ |
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Post by Foggy on Jul 26, 2024 16:17:39 GMT
Like Dok I have an Android so can't speak for Apple phones I'm afraid, but even after downloading a supposed Welsh keyboard on the former I still find myself lacking W-circumflex and Y-circumflex when I hold down on those letters.
They might sound like extremely niche diacritics, but without being able to type those I can't spell everyday words like "water" or "house" correctly!
Oh, and if we're bringing mathematical notation into the discussion, and since we started by talking about lower case i, then we can't fail to mention that most important of discoveries: the square root of minus 1.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jul 28, 2024 3:24:44 GMT
Like Dok I have an Android so can't speak for Apple phones I'm afraid, but even after downloading a supposed Welsh keyboard on the former I still find myself lacking W-circumflex and Y-circumflex when I hold down on those letters. They might sound like extremely niche diacritics, but without being able to type those I can't spell everyday words like "water" or "house" correctly! Oh, and if we're bringing mathematical notation into the discussion, and since we started by talking about lower case i, then we can't fail to mention that most important of discoveries: the square root of minus 1. The Welsh keyboard I have 'built in' includes ŷ and ŵ! |
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