Defections to UKIP

[marksenior]

Jul 29, 2013 15:24:21 GMT @ianrobo said:

Jul 29, 2013 15:05:52 GMT marksenior said:

Where is Darren when we need him ?

I guess though when you receive as Chair and deputy of the CA a vote of no confidence of 95% you might as well leave the party ... No indication as to what the issue was of course that would be fascinating.

There is another article on the web somewhere on the dispute . Can't find it now but I interpreted it as a Darren takeover plot of the local party .

[tricky]

Jul 29, 2013 15:36:42 GMT Richard Allen said:

Jul 29, 2013 15:14:57 GMT tricky said:

Hold on. Den Dover, former North West Tory MEP, is now running for selection for UKIP in the South East? DO I have that right?

I do not know which region Den Dover has applied for. All I know is that he did his public speaking assessment, incorrectly labelled a hustings, in the South East. That does not necessarily mean that he wants to stand in the South East.

So he wants to be a candidate for UKIP in the 2014 election and could be selected?

[Richard Allen]

Jul 29, 2013 16:15:46 GMT tricky said:

Jul 29, 2013 15:36:42 GMT Richard Allen said:

I do not know which region Den Dover has applied for. All I know is that he did his public speaking assessment, incorrectly labelled a hustings, in the South East. That does not necessarily mean that he wants to stand in the South East.

So he wants to be a candidate for UKIP in the 2014 election and could be selected?

Yes. I thought that was pretty clear from what was said on the previous page. I do consider the chances of him being selected in a winnable position to be very low and I would hope that he doesn't get selected at all.

[Pete Whitehead]

Jul 29, 2013 16:08:30 GMT marksenior said:

Jul 29, 2013 15:24:21 GMT @ianrobo said:

I guess though when you receive as Chair and deputy of the CA a vote of no confidence of 95% you might as well leave the party ... No indication as to what the issue was of course that would be fascinating.

There is another article on the web somewhere on the dispute . Can't find it now but I interpreted it as a Darren takeover plot of the local party .

www.thisissussex.co.uk/Councillor-denies-plotting-coup-Crawley-Borough/story-19500333-detail/story.html#axzz2aTXFtyeu

[Davıd Boothroyd]

What a terrible situation for the Crawley Conservative Association.

(Sorry couldn't resist it)

[mrhell]

Jul 28, 2013 18:34:04 GMT Devonian said:

Important day for Rutland UKIP tomorrow

www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/UKIP-trio-face-legal-action/story-19578039-detail/story.html

www.rutland.gov.uk/council_meetings/full_council/29_july_2013_special.aspx

www.rutland.gov.uk/pdf/Report%20No%20173-2013%20Update%20on%20Special%20Council%20Meeting%20January%2010%202013.pdf

Can't see how this can turn out well for Rutland. The Chief Executive is on £113,000 and frankly could afford to sue for libel herself instead of spending council tax money on it. As a comment on the article says is she going to sue Private Eye as well for this article sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/522684_10151149413868053_359690500_n.jpg

[Crimson King]

Jul 29, 2013 22:25:06 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

What a terrible situation for the Crawley Conservative Association.

(Sorry couldn't resist it)

no need to crow about it

[Deleted]

Jul 29, 2013 22:18:00 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

Jul 29, 2013 16:08:30 GMT marksenior said:

There is another article on the web somewhere on the dispute . Can't find it now but I interpreted it as a Darren takeover plot of the local party .

www.thisissussex.co.uk/Councillor-denies-plotting-coup-Crawley-Borough/story-19500333-detail/story.html#axzz2aTXFtyeu

Thanks for that and if it is true that sexual harassment claims were made falsely then it does not get dirtier than that.

[Pete Whitehead]

No comments on that page but some amusing ones on TheBlueGuerilla site which was referred to there. No sign of a weather thread on there

[iainbhx]

Jul 30, 2013 7:50:25 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

No comments on that page but some amusing ones on TheBlueGuerilla site which was referred to there. No sign of a weather thread on there

I'm getting server not found for that site. Has a murder of crows descended on it?

[Crimson King]

madeupquote said:

Cllr Duncan Crow has denied rumours that he is plotting to take over the leadership and has been backed up by other members of the association. Duncan Brow said "This is all a plot by his enemies" and this was supported in other calls to the Courier by Duncan Grow, Duncan Prow and Duncan Trow

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2013 9:24:56 GMT Crimson King said:

madeupquote said:

Cllr Duncan Crow has denied rumours that he is plotting to take over the leadership and has been backed up by other members of the association. Duncan Brow said "This is all a plot by his enemies" and this was supported in other calls to the Courier by Duncan Grow, Duncan Prow and Duncan Trow

And his D&D playing associate, Duncan Drow

[Devonian]

Jul 29, 2013 22:40:53 GMT mrhell said:

Jul 28, 2013 18:34:04 GMT Devonian said:

Important day for Rutland UKIP tomorrow

www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/UKIP-trio-face-legal-action/story-19578039-detail/story.html

www.rutland.gov.uk/council_meetings/full_council/29_july_2013_special.aspx

www.rutland.gov.uk/pdf/Report%20No%20173-2013%20Update%20on%20Special%20Council%20Meeting%20January%2010%202013.pdf

Can't see how this can turn out well for Rutland. The Chief Executive is on £113,000 and frankly could afford to sue for libel herself instead of spending council tax money on it. As a comment on the article says is she going to sue Private Eye as well for this article sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/522684_10151149413868053_359690500_n.jpg

Update on this

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-23500027

A council has agreed to fund any legal action its officers take against three councillors for alleged defamation.

Rutland County Council voted on Monday to back several officers against UKIP councillors Richard Gale, David Richardson and Nicholas Wainwright.

They are alleged to have made defamatory statements on a website and harassed staff in a series of emails.

The men, who were previously independent councillors, said they would seek legal advice.

In January the council voted to set aside £90,000 for legal bills in action against the three councillors who previously called themselves the Rutland Anti-Corruption Group.

But the House of Lords, which debated the decision, said the council could not sue for defamation itself, despite advice from solicitors in a commissioned report.
'Unequivocal retraction'

On Monday, in a special meeting in Oakham, the Conservative-controlled council decided it would meet legal bills incurred by senior officers if they chose to take action.

Officers estimated it could cost the council, one of the smallest local authorities in the country, £150,000.

But the council's leader, Roger Begy, said: "I don't know how much this is going to cost, nobody will at this particular stage.

"What we are looking to do, we will bring this back to councillors before we spend any money at all and we will bring it back on a regular basis.

"This is not a blank cheque for the lawyers."

He added he hoped it would never come to court and asked the men to either prove their accusations of corruption or apologise and retract the statements.

He said that if it did come to court, the cost of the action would be less than compensating staff who felt the accusations prevented them from getting a new job.

The UKIP members have asked for more time to consider the demand by Rutland County Council to "refrain from further defamatory statements and allegations and provide a full and unequivocal retraction and apology".

They have maintained they have done nothing wrong, insisting they need to ask difficult questions to carry out their jobs.

[Devonian]

Defections from UKIP? From the TheBlueGuerilla website

There's a serious rumour doing the rounds today that Tory County Councillors Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter Clarke are sensationally on the brink of returning to the Conservatives.

It follows news that the pair were stripped of their Deputy Leader roles within the UKIP Group on Lincolnshire County Council.

Councillor's Ayling and Hunter-Clarke represent Spilsby Fen and Skegness South wards respectively.

A letter leaked to the Lincolnshire Echo detailing the demotions has today been confirmed by Lincolnshire Party Leader Chris Pain.

www.theblueguerilla.co.uk/2013/07/exclusive-robin-hunter-clarke-and.html

[Deleted]

ah ... what would you expect from one set of turncoats, surely they would not be allowed back in ?

[marksenior]

Jul 30, 2013 20:02:14 GMT @ianrobo said:

ah ... what would you expect from one set of turncoats, surely they would not be allowed back in ?

I am not sure either were in the Conservatives before .

[Pete Whitehead]

Victoria Ayling was the Tory candidate for Great Grimsby in 2010

[peterl]

Crawley Conservative Chairman Lee Gilroy defects to UKIP.

Along with Deputy Chairman Karl Williamson, who is also a councillor for the Southgate Ward.

[The Bishop]

Erm.....have you read the thread??

[Devonian]

IT’S not often that a “Surprise Guest Speaker” really comes as a surprise - but the recent UKIP public meeting at Maghull Town Hall genuinely did raise eyebrows.

The defection of long-standing Liberal Democrat Councillor Jack Colbert to UKIP took many of his close friends and former political allies totally by surprise. Reactions ranged from simple puzzlement to condemnation.

But Jack, a popular Aintree Parish Councillor and former Lib Dem Sefton Councillor for Molyneux Ward though he actually lives in Seaforth, was totally unrepentant when I talked to him one to one last week[...]

www.champnews.com/newsstory.aspx?story=3041118

Also according to UKIP's Twitter account earlier today Cllr Linda Whitehouse of Cannock Chase District Council. Conservative to UKIP