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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jan 27, 2024 18:21:45 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on. Lol, at everyone who scoffed at me when I said this. I still think Labour will win and more comfortably so than Batley and Spen, because its a safer seat and national situation is obviously more Labour friendly, but the demographic makeup of the constituency mixed with a even more inflamed geopolitical backdrop than July 2021 gave it all the ingredients for a repeat of what we saw in Batley and Spen and now Galloway is standing.
I can't find anything to say he is standing, can you provide a link please.
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Post by andrewp on Jan 27, 2024 18:24:30 GMT
Lol, at everyone who scoffed at me when I said this. I still think Labour will win and more comfortably so than Batley and Spen, because its a safer seat and national situation is obviously more Labour friendly, but the demographic makeup of the constituency mixed with a even more inflamed geopolitical backdrop than July 2021 gave it all the ingredients for a repeat of what we saw in Batley and Spen and now Galloway is standing.
I can't find anything to say he is standing, can you provide a link please.
He’s announced it on X ( 2 hours ago)- ‘I will be a candidate in the forthcoming #Rochdale by-election. Someone has to teach #Starmer and #GenocideLabour a lesson. ‘ Where does he live? London?
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 27, 2024 18:51:02 GMT
That surprises me! I think everything was pointing to Paul Waugh bring the shoo-in. well done for being one of the few people these days who is able to spell shoo-in correctly. It just doesn't look right with the shoe spelling!
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Post by manchesterman on Jan 27, 2024 18:59:15 GMT
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 27, 2024 19:15:13 GMT
Typical GG misdirection, suggesting to those not in the know that he could have won, when he would have handed the seat to the Tories. As ever, he confirms his only role these days is to be a race-baiting spoiler.
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Post by graham on Jan 27, 2024 19:44:31 GMT
Why would Labour call the by election before it is 100% clear that there is not to be a GE on May 2nd?
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 27, 2024 19:44:58 GMT
The fact that seats have been vacant in the past for six months or more doesn't mean that's something we should aspire to. There is no good reason not to hold this by-election in mid-March and give Rochdalians their voice back in parliament within a more reasonable time. What would be the additional cost to the council? Given the perilous state of many LA budgets, it doesn't take much to become a good reason. This isn't Dibley Parish Council we're talking about, this is a large metropolitan borough.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 27, 2024 20:15:39 GMT
Knowing how quickly he can reach for the lawyers, I'll keep my peace on this decision.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 27, 2024 21:02:41 GMT
I do wonder the extent to which this was a stitch-up that failed, versus being a case where Waugh wanted to run and HQ were happy for him to do so, but didn't really row in behind him. Certainly if it was the former then Waugh is going to be very aggrieved with the advice he received.
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Post by bsjmcr on Jan 27, 2024 21:12:26 GMT
Rochdale people are never knowingly overenthusiastic. There's various non-Rochdale people in that picture like the MP for Gorton and that creature from Oldham Looking at this on a small phone screen I was wondering what Helen Whately was doing there at first then realised it’s Elsie Blundell…
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 27, 2024 21:57:29 GMT
Has anyone got any pictures of George Galloway with other heads of government from Arab countries?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 27, 2024 22:02:48 GMT
What would be the additional cost to the council? Given the perilous state of many LA budgets, it doesn't take much to become a good reason. This isn't Dibley Parish Council we're talking about, this is a large metropolitan borough. Local authorities reclaim the cost of running Parliamentary byelections from the Consolidated Fund.
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Post by batman on Jan 27, 2024 22:08:19 GMT
It's worth noting that it's over a decade since Galloway last won an election.
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Post by peterl on Jan 27, 2024 22:57:47 GMT
What would be the additional cost to the council? Given the perilous state of many LA budgets, it doesn't take much to become a good reason. This isn't Dibley Parish Council we're talking about, this is a large metropolitan borough. Pretty sure councils are reimbursed by central government for the cost of parliamentary elections anyway.
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Post by stb12 on Jan 27, 2024 22:58:09 GMT
Lol, at everyone who scoffed at me when I said this. I still think Labour will win and more comfortably so than Batley and Spen, because its a safer seat and national situation is obviously more Labour friendly, but the demographic makeup of the constituency mixed with a even more inflamed geopolitical backdrop than July 2021 gave it all the ingredients for a repeat of what we saw in Batley and Spen and now Galloway is standing. 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001 Glasgow Hillhead/Glasgow Kelvin 2005 Bethnal Green & Bow 2010 Poplar & Limehouse 2012 (b), 2015 Bradford West 2017 Manchester Gorton 2019 West Bromwich East 2021 (b) Batley & Spen 2024 (b) Rochdale 2024/25 (general) ? He gets around. That's without mentioning a London Mayor and two Scottish Parliament runs
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 28, 2024 0:09:43 GMT
It's worth noting that it's over a decade since Galloway last won an election. True, but let's not tempt fate shall we?
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Post by johnloony on Jan 28, 2024 0:41:10 GMT
Why would Labour call the by election before it is 100% clear that there is not to be a GE on May 2nd? Because they want the people of Rochdale to be represented in the House of Commons. Because they want the psephological excitement of a by-election which isn’t crowded out by lots of other elections at the same time.
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Post by owainsutton on Jan 28, 2024 6:59:27 GMT
What would be the additional cost to the council? Given the perilous state of many LA budgets, it doesn't take much to become a good reason. This isn't Dibley Parish Council we're talking about, this is a large metropolitan borough. This isn't Dibley Parish Council we're talking about, this is a large metropolitan borough. Pretty sure councils are reimbursed by central government for the cost of parliamentary elections anyway. I stand corrected.
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Post by YL on Jan 28, 2024 8:07:45 GMT
It's worth noting that it's over a decade since Galloway last won an election. This is of course true, but he has been underestimated in the past, not least on that occasion, and it is less than three years since he got over 20% of the vote in Batley & Spen. Maybe he will flop this time, but I don't see any reason to be confident of that. I do think it would be a surprise if he actually won, but if I had to come up with a prediction at this point I'd probably have him second.
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Post by heslingtonian on Jan 28, 2024 8:44:34 GMT
Does Galloway now have the record for standing in the most Parliamentary constituencies for someone who has actually served as an MP (as opposed to the Screaming Lord Sutch type candidates)?
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