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Post by greenhert on Jan 17, 2024 19:22:20 GMT
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 17, 2024 20:17:45 GMT
I first heard Tony Lloyd speak when he gave a presentation to the Young Christian Workers (YCW) at St. Anthony's in the 1980s, he was certainly an inspiring speaker. It was organised by the remarkable and redoubtable Fr. Joe Carter at the St. Anthony's Centre in Trafford Park.
It would amuse him to know that he will be the answer to a quiz question on "who was the first Mayor of Greater Manchester?"
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Post by elinorhelyn on Jan 17, 2024 20:35:15 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on.
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Post by jakegb on Jan 17, 2024 20:37:25 GMT
RIP - that's a significant period of service.
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Post by batman on Jan 17, 2024 20:41:37 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on. in what way? You mean Galloway standing? The political situation is very, very different from what it was at the time of that by-election. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 17, 2024 20:54:00 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on. in what way? You mean Galloway standing? The political situation is very, very different from what it was at the time of that by-election. As is the constituency. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 17, 2024 20:54:13 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on. in what way? You mean Galloway standing? The political situation is very, very different from what it was at the time of that by-election. It wasn't kicking off over Gaza then.. |
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Post by batman on Jan 17, 2024 21:02:33 GMT
that's true. But he doesn't tend to need much of an excuse to stand
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Post by bsjmcr on Jan 17, 2024 21:14:33 GMT
On a different note, I wonder if we could get the first married couple in neighbouring constituencies since Mr and Mrs Balls if Cllr John Blundell decides to stand, his wife is the candidate for Heywood and Middleton North.
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Post by southernliberal on Jan 17, 2024 22:12:10 GMT
that's true. But he doesn't tend to need much of an excuse to stand Isn't he also standing for London mayor in May, even for Galloway standards, standing for a parliamentary by-election in Greater Manchester in March then going on to stand in the London Mayoral c. eight weeks later would surely be too much. |
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Post by nyx on Jan 17, 2024 22:20:09 GMT
I wonder if the Lib Dems will launch a meaningful campaign here. They've dropped a lot recently but the seat was always traditionally a Lab-Lib marginal before 2015.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 17, 2024 22:39:53 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on. Doubt it, Rochdale has never been a place of ethnic dispute (well, except for us Irish for a while), and the NF and BNP never did well. I will be interested to see who stands"; I suspect Andy Kelly will want to run for the Lib Dems - I have known him (and his family) for over 30 years and he is a lovely bloke, totally delusional in terms of his electoral hopes, but lovely. |
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Post by stb12 on Jan 17, 2024 22:44:36 GMT
I wonder if the Lib Dems will launch a meaningful campaign here. They've dropped a lot recently but the seat was always traditionally a Lab-Lib marginal before 2015. It’s unlikely to be worth their while until Labour are back in government |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 17, 2024 22:44:56 GMT
I doubt Galloway will fancy Rochdale. Although there will be tension between the main mosques in Rochdale and Labour over the obvious thing, it's not likely to lead to a breach since control of the council will still be in Labour hands and the muslim community isn't anywhere near able to challenge it. Unlike Bradford and Tower Hamlets, there's no particular sign the local muslim youth are out of sympathy with the mosques and willing to organise.
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Post by mattbewilson on Jan 17, 2024 23:01:46 GMT
in what way? You mean Galloway standing? The political situation is very, very different from what it was at the time of that by-election. It wasn't kicking off over Gaza then.. im sure it was. I could be wrong but there was a bombing campaign at the time I'm sure there was. Tbf it happens so regularly. There's more war than there is peace |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jan 17, 2024 23:03:21 GMT
I doubt Galloway will fancy Rochdale. Although there will be tension between the main mosques in Rochdale and Labour over the obvious thing, it's not likely to lead to a breach since control of the council will still be in Labour hands and the muslim community isn't anywhere near able to challenge it. Unlike Bradford and Tower Hamlets, there's no particular sign the local muslim youth are out of sympathy with the mosques and willing to organise. i dont know if your last statement is true but i agree with everything else |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jan 17, 2024 23:10:07 GMT
Wikipedia says (bare that in mind) the Israel-Palestinian crisis took place for two weeks from the 10th of may 2021
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 17, 2024 23:20:46 GMT
I feel a batley and spen coming on. Doubt it, Rochdale has never been a place of ethnic dispute (well, except for us Irish for a while), and the NF and BNP never did well. I will be interested to see who stands"; I suspect Andy Kelly will want to run for the Lib Dems - I have known him (and his family) for over 30 years and he is a lovely bloke, totally delusional in terms of his electoral hopes, but lovely. The Man on the Telly himself. He's cleaned up on more than a few quiz shows over the years. |
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Post by nyx on Jan 17, 2024 23:22:44 GMT
I wonder if the Lib Dems will launch a meaningful campaign here. They've dropped a lot recently but the seat was always traditionally a Lab-Lib marginal before 2015. It’s unlikely to be worth their while until Labour are back in government Well, they don't have a Rochdale by-election with Labour in government, but they do have one now, and getting back up from 7% to at least 20% in a by election would be groundwork for further work on the seat under a Labour govt. |
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Post by nyx on Jan 17, 2024 23:28:13 GMT
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