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Post by batman on Jan 28, 2024 9:16:57 GMT
It will now be 8 which beats Winston Churchill's record, not sure if anyone else can beat that. Churchill stood in 6 different constituencies, or 7 if one counts Woodford post-1945 as a different seat from Epping pre-1945.
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 28, 2024 9:32:49 GMT
Labour may have made the right choice to deal with a Galloway candidacy, fingers crossed.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 28, 2024 9:51:51 GMT
Labour may have made the right choice to deal with a Galloway candidacy, fingers crossed. I agree, but it is not unknown in the GG playbook to accuse an Asian Muslim of selling out their community: he will get some publicity-hungry community leaders to appear at photo-ops with him, get the chair of a local mosque (doesn't have to be a major one, he will present it as if it is) to back him, get his rent-a-mob to accuse Muslim Labour councillors of being 'pro-genocide' if they don't back him. All while emphasising his Palestinian family ties, and allowing his online buffoons to claim he is a Muslim, which he isn't, never has been, but refuses to answer directly on his tv shows as it stirs the mix. (Of course, if you listen to his radio shows, it has always been clear, when taking calls from Scottish listeners, that he continues to identify as a Catholic, but none of his social media mob let tbe truth get in the way).
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Post by batman on Jan 28, 2024 9:54:09 GMT
he has also in the past tried the tactic of trying to portray Muslim Labour candidates as non-teetotallers, whereas he says he himself is.
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 28, 2024 9:59:39 GMT
That playbook worked brilliantly in Bradford West, but hasn't always been as successful.
(one reason it might have been so effective then is that the Labour candidate was a senior figure in the local council, and thus easily attacked on that basis)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 28, 2024 11:56:22 GMT
G. Galloway | Workers Party | 7945 | 19.9% | A. Ali | Labour | 7823 | 19.6% | A. Kelly | Lib Dem | 7304 | 18.3% | S. Danczuk | Conservative | 6532 | 16.4% | J. Bickley | Reform UK | 3645 | 9.1% | A. Hussain | Independent | 2578 | 6.5% | J. Fransen | Britain First | 1005 | 2.5% | AM. Waters | UKIP | 814 | 2.0% | P. Cranie | Green | 800 | 2.0% | M. Hussain | Independent | 750 | 1.9% | Others | Others | 700 | 1.8% | | | | | Majority | | 122 | 0.3% |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 28, 2024 11:56:44 GMT
he has also in the past tried the tactic of trying to portray Muslim Labour candidates as non-teetotallers, whereas he says he himself is. Part of the game: "Doesn't drink, uses Arabic phrases, has a beard, not afraid to talk about God (usually as Allah) - of course he is a secret Muslim brother".
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 28, 2024 11:59:18 GMT
G. Galloway | Workers Party | 7945 | 19.9% | A. Ali | Labour | 7823 | 19.6% | A. Kelly | Lib Dem | 7304 | 18.3% | S. Danczuk | Conservative | 6532 | 16.4% | J. Bickley | Reform UK | 3645 | 9.1% | A. Hussain | Independent | 2578 | 6.5% | J. Fransen | Britain First | 1005 | 2.5% | AM. Waters | UKIP | 814 | 2.0% | P. Cranie | Green | 800 | 2.0% | M. Hussain | Independent | 750 | 1.9% | Others | Others | 700 | 1.8% | | | | | Majority | | 122 | 0.3% |
Kind of dream/nightmare scenario I would come up with when in my cups as a 20 year old. We psephology nerds are the best😎😎
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 28, 2024 12:00:04 GMT
G. Galloway | Workers Party | 7945 | 19.9% | A. Ali | Labour | 7823 | 19.6% | A. Kelly | Lib Dem | 7304 | 18.3% | S. Danczuk | Conservative | 6532 | 16.4% | J. Bickley | Reform UK | 3645 | 9.1% | A. Hussain | Independent | 2578 | 6.5% | J. Fransen | Britain First | 1005 | 2.5% | AM. Waters | UKIP | 814 | 2.0% | P. Cranie | Green | 800 | 2.0% | M. Hussain | Independent | 750 | 1.9% | Others | Others | 700 | 1.8% | | | | | Majority | | 122 | 0.3% |
If that was the actual result, I wonder how much of a "great victory" GG would claim it to be
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 28, 2024 12:52:11 GMT
G. Galloway | Workers Party | 7945 | 19.9% | A. Ali | Labour | 7823 | 19.6% | A. Kelly | Lib Dem | 7304 | 18.3% | S. Danczuk | Conservative | 6532 | 16.4% | J. Bickley | Reform UK | 3645 | 9.1% | A. Hussain | Independent | 2578 | 6.5% | J. Fransen | Britain First | 1005 | 2.5% | AM. Waters | UKIP | 814 | 2.0% | P. Cranie | Green | 800 | 2.0% | M. Hussain | Independent | 750 | 1.9% | Others | Others | 700 | 1.8% | | | | | Majority | | 122 | 0.3% |
If that was the actual result, I wonder how much of a "great victory" GG would claim it to be A "landslide of earth-shattering proportions!" Also, when accused of race-baiting and stoking Muslim fears he would say, as he did in an radio interview the day after the Bradford West byelection: "Me? But I am a blue-eyed Irish Catholic boy from Scotland".
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 28, 2024 13:47:45 GMT
It will now be 8 which beats Winston Churchill's record, not sure if anyone else can beat that. Churchill stood in 6 different constituencies, or 7 if one counts Woodford post-1945 as a different seat from Epping pre-1945. Ramsay McDonald can also claim 7 - Southampton, Leicester, Leicester West, Woolwich East, Aberavon, Seaham, Combined Scottish Universities
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 28, 2024 16:41:34 GMT
The issue with Galloway's candidature at Batley and Spen was that unless national conditions are very favourable, Labour typically need a strong showing at the Batley end of the constituency to overcome the substantial lead the Conservatives usually pile up in the Spen Valley. Rochdale is quite different: the Conservatives have not been competitive in the constituency since the 1958 by-election and when the constituency was keenly contested between Labour and the Liberals the Pakistani community was certainly not monolithically in the Labour column. Though there is little doubt that Galloway's presence will be loud and unpleasant, if that is what is meant above.
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Post by greenhert on Jan 28, 2024 16:59:48 GMT
Does Galloway now have the record for standing in the most Parliamentary constituencies for someone who has actually served as an MP (as opposed to the Screaming Lord Sutch type candidates)? He does indeed, having stood in Glasgow Hillhead, Glasgow Kelvin, Bethnal Green & Bow, Poplar & Limehouse, Bradford West, Manchester Gorton, West Bromwich East, Batley & Spen, and now Rochdale, 9 in total. The previous record holder was George Nicholls, Liberal MP for North Northamptonshire from 1906 to 1910, who stood in 8 different constituencies during his career (North Northamptonshire, Faversham, Newmarket, Camborne, Peterborough, Warwick & Leamington, Bury St Edmunds, and Harborough).
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Post by batman on Jan 28, 2024 19:21:29 GMT
Glasgow Kelvin was a fairly clear linear successor to Glasgow Hillhead although technically they were different constituencies. This does not however apply to any of the others. Although some of Bethnal Green & Bow did go into Poplar & Limehouse, the latter was definitely not the former's linear successor and they are undoubtedly two different constituencies. Indeed, Galloway stood in Poplar & Limehouse because he had undertaken not to stand for re-election in Bethnal Green & Bow, perhaps something he later regretted.
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Post by batman on Jan 28, 2024 21:22:01 GMT
You almost have to admire the assumption that the Rochdale branch of the Workers' Party would automatically select GG as their candidate. The thought that they might wish to meet to decide who, if anyone, they want to select has not even occurred to him for a nanosecond. He wants to stand, so he simply tells the party that and his word is gospel. He obviously doesn't think much of the other party members' ability to gain votes.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 28, 2024 21:27:43 GMT
You almost have to admire the assumption that the Rochdale branch of the Workers' Party would automatically select GG as their candidate. The thought that they might wish to meet to decide who, if anyone, they want to select has not even occurred to him for a nanosecond. He wants to stand, so he simply tells the party that and his word is gospel. He obviously doesn't think much of the other party members' ability to gain votes. Are their any members of the Workers Party in Rochdale?
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 28, 2024 21:28:06 GMT
You almost have to admire the assumption that the Rochdale branch of the Workers' Party would automatically select GG as their candidate. The thought that they might wish to meet to decide who, if anyone, they want to select has not even occurred to him for a nanosecond. He wants to stand, so he simply tells the party that and his word is gospel. He obviously doesn't think much of the other party members' ability to gain votes. As if they have branches!
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Post by greenhert on Jan 28, 2024 21:42:45 GMT
You almost have to admire the assumption that the Rochdale branch of the Workers' Party would automatically select GG as their candidate. The thought that they might wish to meet to decide who, if anyone, they want to select has not even occurred to him for a nanosecond. He wants to stand, so he simply tells the party that and his word is gospel. He obviously doesn't think much of the other party members' ability to gain votes. Like the now defunct Respect Party, the Workers' Party belongs to George Galloway for all practical purposes; Mr Galloway is the only prominent figure in that party.
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Post by YL on Jan 28, 2024 21:47:07 GMT
You almost have to admire the assumption that the Rochdale branch of the Workers' Party would automatically select GG as their candidate. The thought that they might wish to meet to decide who, if anyone, they want to select has not even occurred to him for a nanosecond. He wants to stand, so he simply tells the party that and his word is gospel. He obviously doesn't think much of the other party members' ability to gain votes. Like the now defunct Respect Party, the Workers' Party belongs to George Galloway for all practical purposes; Mr Galloway is the only prominent figure in that party. It depends what you mean by "prominent", but there is one person in the party who has been an MP more recently than George Galloway has.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 28, 2024 21:50:07 GMT
You almost have to admire the assumption that the Rochdale branch of the Workers' Party would automatically select GG as their candidate. The thought that they might wish to meet to decide who, if anyone, they want to select has not even occurred to him for a nanosecond. He wants to stand, so he simply tells the party that and his word is gospel. He obviously doesn't think much of the other party members' ability to gain votes. Like the now defunct Respect Party, the Workers' Party belongs to George Galloway for all practical purposes; Mr Galloway is the only prominent figure in that party. Chris Williamson says hello (though he is only prominent among his fevered acolytes and in his own mind, so a mini-me of GG).
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