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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 12, 2024 21:24:51 GMT
This byelection is turtles all the way down isn't it. I'm afraid this is the only election I'm aware of with a turtle candidate: |
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Post by andrea on Feb 12, 2024 21:25:19 GMT
Interesting....Labour have a couple of Muslim parliamentary candidates (Gillingham, Chingford) , both women, but that's it. . I think also Zubir Ahmed in Glasgow South West, Abtisam Mohamed in Sheffield Central and Tauqeer Malik in Aberdeen South (but this one shouldn't be winnable). |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 12, 2024 21:30:29 GMT
Interesting....Labour have a couple of Muslim parliamentary candidates (Gillingham, Chingford) , both women, but that's it. The many Muslim local councillors or candidates suggest that Labour can't deal with Palestinian issues unless they agree with Starmer's views. Sheffield Central Thanks "Evacuate to where? 1.4 million Palestinians are without a safe place to go. Rafah was the last safe zone in the south of Gaza. There is nowhere else to go. Terrifying that this is forcing the displacement of Palestinians. This has to stop #CeasefireNOW" I agree....says Abtisan Mohamed, candidate for Sheffield Central. |
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Post by mboy on Feb 12, 2024 21:48:02 GMT
They say there's new information. What new information? Is there going to be a scoop in the Tuesday front pages? Apparently he's called Starmer a 'war criminal'. So both favourites for this election called their Labour leader a war criminal? Amazing  |
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 12, 2024 21:52:23 GMT
One way or the other, best just to get this shitshow of a by-election out of the way. If Galloway wins, so be it. He will make the HoC 'entertaining' in his own self-aggrandising way for a few months, then come the GE, Labour can announce a new candidate [let's hope they make exhaustive checks first, eh?!] , boot gorgeous George out and get some normality back into our politics!
All in all this seems likely to be a most unpleasant campaign, maybe even more unpleasant than the last very unpleasant one in Batley & Spen.... anyone spot the common theme?
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Post by uthacalthing on Feb 12, 2024 22:04:10 GMT
If Hamas surrenders the war stops. If you don't support a Hamas surrender, you support the war going on
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Post by michaelarden on Feb 12, 2024 22:15:48 GMT
If Hamas surrenders the war stops. If you don't support a Hamas surrender, you support the war going on If you don't support the prosecution of Netanyahu and his allies at the Hague for war crimes and genocide, you support the war going on. |
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Post by jimboo2017 on Feb 12, 2024 22:18:54 GMT
Thanks "Evacuate to where? 1.4 million Palestinians are without a safe place to go. Rafah was the last safe zone in the south of Gaza. There is nowhere else to go. Terrifying that this is forcing the displacement of Palestinians. This has to stop #CeasefireNOW" I agree....says Abtisan Mohamed, candidate for Sheffield Central. 18 of the 24 Hamas battalions no longer exist. Hamas have moved their troops into Rafa in breach of International Law “utilising the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations”. Amer Abu Awash has made it clear Hamas will do this until the end. Now Hamas are Zealots, they will sacrifice the civilians down to the last one. We all remember Isis infiltrating the Palestinian refugee camps in Syrian creating a situation where the civilians were being shot by both sides. 10,000 dead
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Post by jimboo2017 on Feb 12, 2024 22:31:48 GMT
If Hamas surrenders the war stops. If you don't support a Hamas surrender, you support the war going on If you don't support the prosecution of Netanyahu and his allies at the Hague for war crimes and genocide, you support the war going on. The ICJ state there is no genocide at this time, it is Hamas who will be prosecuted by the UN for a crime against humanity. There are people on this forum who have slagged of Bibi forever but still support the current Israeli action. Rafah is a five minute walk from Egypt and they could just cross the border, oh except for the thousands of Egyptians troops and intelligence members who will separate the Hamas troops and bury them in the desert, if they are in a good mood they might shoot them first |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Feb 12, 2024 22:46:51 GMT
If Hamas surrenders the war stops. If you don't support a Hamas surrender, you support the war going on If you don't support the prosecution of Netanyahu and his allies at the Hague for war crimes and genocide, you support the war going on. I will support Netanyahu being prosecuted for war crimes when Hamas are similarly also prosecuted for war crimes. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 12, 2024 22:54:34 GMT
One way or the other, best just to get this shitshow of a by-election out of the way. If Galloway wins, so be it. He will make the HoC 'entertaining' in his own self-aggrandising way for a few months, then come the GE, Labour can announce a new candidate [let's hope they make exhaustive checks first, eh?!] , boot gorgeous George out and get some normality back into our politics! All in all this seems likely to be a most unpleasant campaign, maybe even more unpleasant than the last very unpleasant one in Batley & Spen.... anyone spot the common theme? Teams that haven't won the Challenge Cup for a long time? |
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 12, 2024 23:06:19 GMT
If you don't support the prosecution of Netanyahu and his allies at the Hague for war crimes and genocide, you support the war going on. I will support Netanyahu being prosecuted for war crimes when Hamas are similarly also prosecuted for war crimes. isn't both cases being considered at the moment |
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 12, 2024 23:12:40 GMT
If Hamas surrenders the war stops. If you don't support a Hamas surrender, you support the war going on that's not true though is it. 'nothing will stop us' I think was Bibi's words. Hamas surrender I imagine included. Hamas total elimination whether achieved or not won't be prevented by surrender. At best you could argue fewer people will die. But given we know Hamas will choose their own lives above others we can be sure that given the choice between certain death and dragging a war out they will choose the latter, no? Bastards will behave like bastards. Do you think saying if bastards will surrender it'll end that they will? |
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Post by maxque on Feb 12, 2024 23:15:03 GMT
If Hamas surrenders the war stops. If you don't support a Hamas surrender, you support the war going on It will not and you know it. They need the land for their new colonies. |
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Post by graham on Feb 13, 2024 0:09:12 GMT
I suppose that Labour members can still work for Ali in Rochdale without risking any disciplinary action because they would not be campaigning against anothe Labour candidate in the field. Effectively Ali is now the Independent labour candidate.
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Post by stb12 on Feb 13, 2024 0:38:56 GMT
Like Neale Hanvey with the SNP in 2019 this makes for a very unusual occasion where there’s a disowned candidate in a competitive seat, or in this case probably what you’d call safe seat. Usually this only happens with paper candidates in no hope constituencies
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Post by johnloony on Feb 13, 2024 1:01:49 GMT
A cynic might say that Labour voters will vote for George Galloway, and that Conservative and Lib Dem voters will vote Labour in order to stop Galloway from winning.
A pragmatist might say that Labour voters will vote Labour anyway because they have no reason to switch to another party.
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 13, 2024 1:17:10 GMT
A cynic might say that Labour voters will vote for George Galloway, and that Conservative and Lib Dem voters will vote Labour in order to stop Galloway from winning. A pragmatist might say that Labour voters will vote Labour anyway because they have no reason to switch to another party. or if it hasn't been picked up by voters |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 13, 2024 1:17:43 GMT
They say there's new information. What new information? Is there going to be a scoop in the Tuesday front pages? Apparently he's called Starmer a 'war criminal'. I don't really like popcorn but where could I get some at this time of night? |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 13, 2024 1:31:19 GMT
By the way, none of you knew what resile meant till Tony Blair didn't. Neither did I WRONG! WRONG! CORRECT. |
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