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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 15:29:50 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 16:34:35 GMT
De Croo's father, liberal big beast Hermann, is briefing that the VLD are in trouble.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 16:45:25 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised at all of VB+NVA win a majority in Flanders.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 16:59:14 GMT
Looks like NVA is going to beat VB in Flanders, and that the Socialists might end up 3rd in Wallonia.
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 17:14:52 GMT
It looks like voters that were undecided between NVA and VB broke strongly toward the NVA, and that votes who were undecided between LE, PS broke even more strongly toward LE.
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Post by johnloony on Jun 9, 2024 17:23:58 GMT
The Royal children voted for the first time I notice (in other words, Wikipedia tells me) that the royal children in Belgium are Princess Elisabeth (age 22), Prince Gabriel (20), Prince Emmanuel (18) and Princess Eléonore (16). It looks like all four of them are in that video. Does that mean that the voting age in Belgium is 16 not 18? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 17:26:00 GMT
It looks like voters that were undecided between NVA and VB broke strongly toward the NVA, and that votes who were undecided between LE, PS broke even more strongly toward LE. LE rebranding clearly worked. Very impressive. There are rumours that Vooruit splitter and Gaza obsessive Fouad Ahidar is going to claim a seat in Brussels. PTB are going backwards in some places, and Chez Nous are seeing some higher scores than expected (in Verviers for example). |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 17:29:14 GMT
It looks like voters that were undecided between NVA and VB broke strongly toward the NVA, and that votes who were undecided between LE, PS broke even more strongly toward LE. LE rebranding clearly worked. Very impressive. There are rumours that Vooruit splitter and Gaza obsessive Fouad Ahidar is going to claim a seat in Brussels. PTB are going backwards in some places, and Chez Nous are seeing some higher scores than expected (in Verviers for example). Strong hint to VLD that they should probably move to the the right. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 17:40:52 GMT
Some other news on the wires. The Francophone Greens are in big trouble in Brussels and it looks like Ecolo will take a massive hit. MR looking up.
VLD in big trouble everywhere.
I'm fascinated to see which circonscription in Wallonia gives the NVA its highest score south of the border.
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Post by andrea on Jun 9, 2024 17:42:17 GMT
The Royal children voted for the first time I notice (in other words, Wikipedia tells me) that the royal children in Belgium are Princess Elisabeth (age 22), Prince Gabriel (20), Prince Emmanuel (18) and Princess Eléonore (16). It looks like all four of them are in that video. Does that mean that the voting age in Belgium is 16 not 18? IIRC it was lowered to 16 in 2022. |
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Post by noorderling on Jun 9, 2024 18:55:41 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised at all of VB+NVA win a majority in Flanders. Probably not quite, but around 48%. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 9, 2024 19:24:37 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised at all of VB+NVA win a majority in Flanders. It's beginning to look like MR plus LE will hit 50 per cent in Wallonia. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 19:26:37 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised at all of VB+NVA win a majority in Flanders. It's beginning to look like MR plus LE will hit 50 per cent in Wallonia. Seems like the Walloons smartly understood that Magnette is being a greedy cunt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2024 19:35:52 GMT
Would a broadly right-of-centre coalition MR-LE-CD&V-NVA get a majority? Belgium is looking dangerously close to a stable government!
EDIT: Forgot VLD which at present would take them over halfway. Would they all be able to talk nicely to each other?
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Post by noorderling on Jun 9, 2024 19:35:56 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised at all of VB+NVA win a majority in Flanders. Probably not quite, but around 48%. Bit lower than that, but 63 of 124 seats in the Flemish Parliament. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 9, 2024 19:37:41 GMT
Looks like NVA is going to beat VB in Flanders, and that the Socialists might end up 3rd in Wallonia. Not exactly, what was expected. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 19:41:35 GMT
Looks like NVA is going to beat VB in Flanders, and that the Socialists might end up 3rd in Wallonia. Not exactly, what was expected. I’m not exactly sure what happened in Flanders (except for undecideds breaking in favour of NVA and perhaps some VLD voters switching to NVA to prevent an VB victory), but Wallonia is almost certainly because of Paul Mangette acting like a toddler. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 9, 2024 19:48:01 GMT
Not exactly, what was expected. I’m not exactly sure what happened in Flanders (except for undecideds breaking in favour of NVA and perhaps some VLD voters switching to NVA to prevent an VB victory), but Wallonia is almost certainly because of Paul Mangette acting like a toddler. Right, but PS was nonetheless in front in all opinionPolls (albeit finally decreasing and in 1 on par with MR). |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 9, 2024 19:50:45 GMT
I’m not exactly sure what happened in Flanders (except for undecideds breaking in favour of NVA and perhaps some VLD voters switching to NVA to prevent an VB victory), but Wallonia is almost certainly because of Paul Mangette acting like a toddler. Right, but PS was nonetheless in front in all opinionPolls (albeit finally decreasing and in 1 on par with MR). PS supporters were clearly defecting to LE, but it seems the polls undersampled MR voters and oversampled left leaning voters in general. |
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Post by noorderling on Jun 9, 2024 19:53:41 GMT
Nearly half the voters in Flanders want to fundamentally change or even end Belgium. How sustainable is that?
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