maxque
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Post by maxque on Dec 8, 2023 0:39:29 GMT
Are the previous results just wrong? It looked extremely safe from looking at those? Or St Albans Conservatives are falling apart that bad? |
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Post by manchesterman on Dec 8, 2023 0:44:46 GMT
I think most of us were predicting 4 fairly tight results in the English wards tonight, but it hasnt really turned out like that so far! (Still Briston to come tho)
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Post by carolus on Dec 8, 2023 0:46:00 GMT
I think most of us were predicting 4 fairly tight results in the English wards tonight, but it hasnt really turned out like that so far! (Still Briston to come tho) Briston is done, and posted by DB upthread. LD hold, slightly narrower than May. |
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Post by carolus on Dec 8, 2023 0:47:00 GMT
Are the previous results just wrong? It looked extremely safe from looking at those? Or St Albans Conservatives are falling apart that bad? That was really the result in 2021. |
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Post by phil156 on Dec 8, 2023 0:54:03 GMT
I think most of us were predicting 4 fairly tight results in the English wards tonight, but it hasnt really turned out like that so far! (Still Briston to come tho) also Denbighshire still to declare and just North Norfolk Lab & Grn votes |
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Post by carolus on Dec 8, 2023 0:57:22 GMT
I think most of us were predicting 4 fairly tight results in the English wards tonight, but it hasnt really turned out like that so far! (Still Briston to come tho) also Denbighshire still to declare and just North Norfolk Lab & Grn votes Hopefully Denbighshire will be a rhylly good one |
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 8, 2023 0:58:23 GMT
I think most of us were predicting 4 fairly tight results in the English wards tonight, but it hasnt really turned out like that so far! (Still Briston to come tho) also Denbighshire still to declare and just North Norfolk Lab & Grn votes I will guess Labour has done better in Denbighshire than in Norfolk. |
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 8, 2023 1:04:30 GMT
Are the previous results just wrong? It looked extremely safe from looking at those? Or St Albans Conservatives are falling apart that bad? There was a comment from Tony that the LibDems would have taken this seat very comfortably this May had there been an election at this level. The change was from 2021. |
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Post by batman on Dec 8, 2023 7:27:40 GMT
Looks like Denbighshire is counting this morning perhaps?
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Post by phil156 on Dec 8, 2023 7:36:08 GMT
Looks like Denbighshire is counting this morning perhaps? I checked last night and they where counting as soon as the 2nd ballot box arrived. (Only had two to count) Maybe its one of these councils that count but don't advertise it to in the morning. Which I think is daft but never mind |
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Post by andrewp on Dec 8, 2023 8:41:33 GMT
Rhyl has counted. It was a Labour hold ‘with more than 50% of the vote’
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Post by r34t on Dec 8, 2023 8:53:40 GMT
BROMLEY, Hayes and Coney Hall - C hold C 1541 Lab 962 LD 526 Grn 183 The Ontario effect in action. |
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Post by andrewp on Dec 8, 2023 8:59:49 GMT
Changes
Bromley ( from 2022)
Con 48% (+5,2)
Lab 30% (+3.8)
LD 16.4% (+1.9)
Green 5.7% (-10.9)
Hertfordshire ( from 2021)
LD 58.3% (+33)
Con 30.3% (-26.8)
Lab 6.6% (-4.1)
Green 4.7% (-2.2)
St Albans ( from 2023)
LD 55.9% (+7.1)
Con 33.8% (-4.8)
Green 5.5% (-1.2)
Lab 4.8% (-1.2)
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Post by batman on Dec 8, 2023 9:12:09 GMT
Bromley would be 2022 not 2021.
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Post by batman on Dec 8, 2023 9:13:19 GMT
Some might have expected the collapse of the Green vote in Bromley to help Labour more, but that shows that the Green vote comes from rather surprising sources at times.
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Post by evergreenadam on Dec 8, 2023 9:27:07 GMT
Some might have expected the collapse of the Green vote in Bromley to help Labour more, but that shows that the Green vote comes from rather surprising sources at times. Or that the Green vote had less incentive to turn out. It’s not exactly promising territory for them. Outer London - ULEZ, family sized homes with high heating bills etc. |
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Post by yellowbelly on Dec 8, 2023 9:32:15 GMT
That Hertfordshire result is a portent of what's to come for Conservative county divisions around the country in 2025.
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Post by andrewp on Dec 8, 2023 9:33:38 GMT
Some might have expected the collapse of the Green vote in Bromley to help Labour more, but that shows that the Green vote comes from rather surprising sources at times. Also a slight factor is that there was 1 Green candidate in a 3 seat ward in 2022 and the top Labour candidate ( who was also the candidate yesterday) considerably outpolled her running mates in 2022 suggesting a bit of Lab/ Green split ticket voting in 2022, which when faced with a need to make a choice went back to Labour. Bromley is, perhaps, more evidence that Outer London is amongst the least worst parts of the country for the Tories at the moment. |
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Post by andrewp on Dec 8, 2023 9:35:30 GMT
That Hertfordshire result is a portent of what's to come for Conservative county divisions around the country in 2025. Well they will be in opposition nationally by then, so you’d think there’s a chance that it wont be quite as bad as if they were in government but they will still be defending from a high water mark. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Dec 8, 2023 9:36:00 GMT
That Hertfordshire result is a portent of what's to come for Conservative county divisions around the country in 2025. It could be and interesting to speculate! But will also depend on which party is in government at Westminster and how popular they are. |
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