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Post by andrewp on Nov 20, 2023 16:45:13 GMT
Interesting that we have the same candidate standing in Powys this week as in the other election to that authority 2 weeks ago.
What would the process for this election if he had been elected a week last Thursday?
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Post by timmullen1 on Nov 22, 2023 11:37:50 GMT
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Post by kevinf on Nov 22, 2023 16:26:46 GMT
Interesting that we have the same candidate standing in Powys this week as in the other election to that authority 2 weeks ago. What would the process for this election if he had been elected a week last Thursday? It depends on whether he had been sworn in yet. |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 22, 2023 21:23:19 GMT
Interesting that we have the same candidate standing in Powys this week as in the other election to that authority 2 weeks ago. What would the process for this election if he had been elected a week last Thursday? It depends on whether he had been sworn in yet. In that unlikely event, I'm sure there would be a lot of swearing. |
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Post by greenman on Nov 22, 2023 22:46:16 GMT
Is Powys counting tonight or tomorrow?
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Post by jamesdoyle on Nov 22, 2023 23:33:36 GMT
Is Powys counting tonight or tomorrow? Tonight. It's a LibDem win but no details beyond that afaics |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Nov 22, 2023 23:36:17 GMT
Strike that, here's the figures
LibDem 362
Con 241
Ind 83 (Fitzpatrick)
Ind 14 (Markinson)
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 22, 2023 23:45:42 GMT
I make the LD vote 51.7%  Con 34.4% Fitz 11.9% mark 2.0% |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 23, 2023 0:27:41 GMT
Strike that, here's the figures LibDem 362 Con 241 Ind 83 (Fitzpatrick) Ind 14 (Markinson) That photo says 352 not 362. Which makes it 51.0% not 51.8%. The person who wrote the 51.8% possibly did 352/680 instead of 352/690 and the others are 34.9% 12.0% 2.0% |
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Post by casualobserver on Nov 23, 2023 0:38:58 GMT
Open Newham is fiercely anti-Labour and seems to give Mirza and his candidates an easy ride by comparison. Maybe so, but it is highly entertaining! |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Nov 23, 2023 9:48:15 GMT
Strike that, here's the figures LibDem 362 Con 241 Ind 83 (Fitzpatrick) Ind 14 (Markinson) That photo says 352 not 362. Which makes it 51.0% not 51.8%. The person who wrote the 51.8% possibly did 352/680 instead of 352/690 and the others are 34.9% 12.0% 2.0% Ah, thanks John. Fat fingers, late at night - those are my excuses! |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Nov 23, 2023 10:15:44 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Nov 23, 2023 10:25:57 GMT
Strike that, here's the figures LibDem 362 Con 241 Ind 83 (Fitzpatrick) Ind 14 (Markinson) Andrew's Previews suggested that local issues could have caused the LDs problems, but apparently not. A good result. |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 23, 2023 10:29:00 GMT
That photo says 352 not 362. Which makes it 51.0% not 51.8%. The person who wrote the 51.8% possibly did 352/680 instead of 352/690 and the others are 34.9% 12.0% 2.0% Ah, thanks John. Fat fingers, late at night - those are my excuses! I blame the person who wrote the 5 with an almost-closed loop (thus making it almost like a 6) instead of with a southwesterly trailing noodly appendage |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 23, 2023 10:51:31 GMT
Slight correction to the preview: Sam Davies wasn't the first independent elected in Cambridge for decades; John Hipkin and Marie Louise Holland were last elected in Castle ward in 2016 and 2014 respectively, though they're a slightly different case as they had previously been elected as Lib Dems in the ward before they fell out with the party.
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Post by matureleft on Nov 23, 2023 11:04:37 GMT
Slight correction to the preview: Sam Davies wasn't the first independent elected in Cambridge for decades; John Hipkin and Marie Louise Holland were last elected in Castle ward in 2016 and 2014 respectively, though they're a slightly different case as they had previously been elected as Lib Dems in the ward before they fell out with the party. In addition Margaret Reiss was elected in Market ward (initially as an anti-Kite development candidate) in 1978 and sat into the early 1980s (but that was indeed "decades" ago!). She benefited from other parties standing aside to give a clear run at the Tories, at that time (and it shows how long ago it was as it seems unbelievable now) holders of the seat. With both Labour and Lib Dem parties having pretty strong organisational roots and large numbers of activists getting elected as an Independent is pretty tough in the city. |
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Post by batman on Nov 23, 2023 11:08:45 GMT
Hipkin having been an unsuccessful Labour candidate when I was an undergraduate.
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Post by matureleft on Nov 23, 2023 11:54:57 GMT
Hipkin having been an unsuccessful Labour candidate when I was an undergraduate. No. He was originally elected to the County Council in a by-election in succession to (Lady) Nora David (who had been given a peerage) for Labour in Romsey ward in 1979. He was, I was told, hand-picked for a safe seat to add expertise to the Labour group on the County. I recall the grim weather when door-knocking in February. But the weather wasn't bad all the time - I got married under a clear blue sky that month. I think he defected to the SDP very early in that party's establishment in 1981. He don't recall him re-emerging until his Castle ward success for the Lib Dems in 1992, but he might have had the odd failed run earlier |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 23, 2023 12:05:16 GMT
The canonical resource is www.cambridgeelections.org.uk/. It lists Hipkin as having stood for Labour in Newnham's No 2 electoral division in 1981 and for the SDP in the Romsey seat he'd previously held in 1985, in both cases unsuccessfully. When there was last a Conservative on the city council before the recent by-election (Shapour Meftah, Trumpington 2012-2016) I think he may have been in a group with Hipkin - certainly on things like the local plan they effectively operated as a group. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Nov 23, 2023 12:15:22 GMT
Slight correction to the preview: Sam Davies wasn't the first independent elected in Cambridge for decades; John Hipkin and Marie Louise Holland were last elected in Castle ward in 2016 and 2014 respectively, though they're a slightly different case as they had previously been elected as Lib Dems in the ward before they fell out with the party. Whenever I see 'Castle ward', I _always_ think of the Castle ward in Worthing, which is a bit disorienting. Doesn't happen with Central, because that's so generic people almost always say 'X-town Central', and no other ward names in Worthing are very common, but Castle always gets me. Anyone else have a ward name which throws them ike that? |
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