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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 16, 2023 17:20:26 GMT
I can't vouch for the accuracy of this but Surprised not to see more Reps from NY and CA on that list tbh. It isn't a definitive list, many are not talking in public. However I have had some talk that a quite a few GOP representatives and reluctantly concluded that their least bad option is to give the hard right the Speakership and then let them have to face the tough decisions. Plenty of GOP reps are simply sick and tired of acting like responsible adults only to get slaughtered as RINOs and sell outs. If the moderate wing of the GOP cave it will simply be a result of utter exasperation. |
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Post by adlai52 on Oct 16, 2023 17:26:12 GMT
Surprised not to see more Reps from NY and CA on that list tbh. It isn't a definitive list, many are not talking in public. However I have had some talk that a quite a few GOP representatives and reluctantly concluded that their least bad option is to give the hard right the Speakership and then let them have to face the tough decisions. Plenty of GOP reps are simply sick and tired of acting like responsible adults only to get slaughtered as RINOs and sell outs. If the moderate wing of the GOP cave it will simply be a result of utter exasperation. That’s a good read imo. The establishment will be fair less obstinate than the MAGA wing of the party and there is no incentive for many to make a stand now - that said, it would only take a handful to derail Jordan and given his rep you have to imagine there would be enough to do that? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2023 17:32:38 GMT
I can't vouch for the accuracy of this but All these voted for Trump apart from Bacon’s (NE-02), IIRC. You can take Vern Buchanan off that list. He’ll back Jordan. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 16, 2023 23:27:49 GMT
Here we go - the Jordan nomination will be put to the vote at noon Washington time tomorrow (5 pm BST).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 4:28:42 GMT
“Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator...A legislative terrorist...I just never saw a guy who spent more time tearing things apart—never building anything, never putting anything together."
-- John Boehner
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 16:42:47 GMT
Quorum call completed. All 212 Democrats are in attendance. 220 out of 221 Republicans answered the call.
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Post by stb12 on Oct 17, 2023 16:48:41 GMT
By the sounds of it Jordan is very unlikely to win initially but he’s got the numbers close enough where he could go multiple rounds to try and win over the hold outs
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:00:45 GMT
Don Bacon is the first rebel, he voted for McCarthy.
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Post by ricmk on Oct 17, 2023 17:04:32 GMT
Surprised not to see more Reps from NY and CA on that list tbh. It isn't a definitive list, many are not talking in public. However I have had some talk that a quite a few GOP representatives and reluctantly concluded that their least bad option is to give the hard right the Speakership and then let them have to face the tough decisions. Plenty of GOP reps are simply sick and tired of acting like responsible adults only to get slaughtered as RINOs and sell outs. If the moderate wing of the GOP cave it will simply be a result of utter exasperation. Feels we have seen where that leads in the UK with the Tory party- with moderates consistently going along with positions they disagree with and ultimately becoming marginalised and less relevant. They need to stand up and fight even if that means taking on the populist and radical wings, if they aren't to become hollowed out. So I hope that you are wrong, that they are so exasperated and tired just to give in. Let's see. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:06:45 GMT
Lori Chavez-DeRemer also votes for McCarthy.
Ken Buck didn't vote first time round.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:10:08 GMT
Anthony D'Esposito votes for Zeldin
Mario Díaz-Balart votes for Scalise.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:11:32 GMT
Didn't catch who he voted for but Jake Ellsey voted for someone other than Jordan.
That's 5 GOP rebels already so Jordan can't win on this vote.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:13:43 GMT
Andrew Garbarino votes for Zeldin
Carlos Giménez votes for McCarthy
Tony Gonzales votes for Scalise
Kay Granger votes for Scalise
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Post by ricmk on Oct 17, 2023 17:16:03 GMT
This is going to be humiliating for Jordan isn't it? McCarthy was never more than 15 or so holdouts away, which is why he always looked like he'd get there with attrition. Jordan's going to lose dozens at current rate of defections - he'll be in nowhere near as strong a position to negotiate.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:20:23 GMT
Mike Kelly votes for Scalise
Jen Kiggins votes for McCarthy
Nick LiLota votes for Zeldin
Mike Lawlor votes for McCarthy
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 17, 2023 17:25:38 GMT
Absolute bloodbath for Jordan.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:34:01 GMT
John Rutherford votes for Scalise
Mike Simpson votes for Scalise
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Post by stb12 on Oct 17, 2023 17:36:50 GMT
By the sounds of it Jordan is very unlikely to win initially but he’s got the numbers close enough where he could go multiple rounds to try and win over the hold outs Looks like this may be incorrect |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:40:59 GMT
Steve Womack votes for Scalise
I make that 16 GOP rebels.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:45:15 GMT
Second chance for those who didn't answer first time round
Ken Buck votes for Tom Emmer
John James votes for Tom Cole
Doug LaMalfa votes for Kevin McCarthy
Victoria Spartz votes for Tom Massie
So 20 rebels in all going by my count
Gus Bilirakis didn't vote.
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