iain
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Post by iain on Oct 17, 2023 17:54:15 GMT
Jordan does worse than McCarthy ever did - pretty bad up against a disorganised opposition
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 17:54:18 GMT
Result
Jeffries: 212
Jordan: 200
Scalise: 7
McCarthy: 6
Zeldin: 3
Garcia: 1
Cole: 1
Emmer: 1
Massie: 1
No immediate second vote. House in recess.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 17, 2023 18:00:23 GMT
Gus Bilirakis was absent at a funeral but would have voted for Jordan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 18:01:49 GMT
Result Jeffries: 212 Jordan: 200 Scalise: 7 McCarthy: 6 Zeldin: 3 Garcia: 1 Cole: 1 Emmer: 1 Massie: 1 No immediate second vote. House in recess. Majority Whip Tom Emmer will formally now run, IIRC. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 18:15:48 GMT
Jordan does worse than McCarthy ever did - pretty bad up against a disorganised opposition Also Jordan's support is no where near as firm as McCarthy's was. A fair few of the sceptics apparently only promised to vote for Jordan on the first ballot. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 18:16:48 GMT
Result Jeffries: 212 Jordan: 200 Scalise: 7 McCarthy: 6 Zeldin: 3 Garcia: 1 Cole: 1 Emmer: 1 Massie: 1 No immediate second vote. House in recess. Majority Whip Tom Emmer will formally now run, IIRC. I don't see why Emmer would have any easier path to 217 than either Scalise or Jordan. |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 17, 2023 18:25:50 GMT
Absolute bloodbath for Jordan. Some of us scroll through these posts using the most recent posts mechanism and aren't always concentrating on the subject line. So given what's going on at present reading absolute bloodbath for Jordan really was heartstopping for a moment- that really was the big extension to the middle east conflict everyone feared, but then realised not that Jordan and only a metaphorical bloodbath. |
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Post by stb12 on Oct 17, 2023 18:29:33 GMT
Majority Whip Tom Emmer will formally now run, IIRC. I don't see why Emmer would have any easier path to 217 than either Scalise or Jordan. Hard to know who does at this stage, maybe a fairly new member not clearly on either side and who hasn’t offended anybody? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 18:55:23 GMT
Elise Stefanik?
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Post by stb12 on Oct 17, 2023 19:03:56 GMT
Her transition from a moderate into one of Trump’s biggest cheerleaders may have made her unpopular with quite a few people |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 19:11:14 GMT
John Boehner - divorced
Eric Cantor - beheaded
Paul Ryan - died
Kevin McCarthy - divorced
Jim Jordan - beheaded?
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 19:52:18 GMT
Do you see/hear her speech nominating Jordan? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 19:54:29 GMT
Do you see/hear her speech nominating Jordan? How many times will she back him until he can’t win? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 17, 2023 19:58:46 GMT
There were times, like when she was referring to "the people's House", when I thought she had been taking lessons from Sir Humphrey Appleby's guidance on the lethal effect of praise.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 20:10:02 GMT
Do you see/hear her speech nominating Jordan? How many times will she back him until he can’t win? She is Chairman of the House GOP Conference. She is pretty much obliged to support the official nominee of the Conference. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Oct 17, 2023 20:24:44 GMT
Rep opponents of Jordan are pushing for a second vote. Presumably this means they think a) he'll lose again and b) losing again will mean he's done
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 17, 2023 20:28:43 GMT
John Boehner - divorced Eric Cantor - beheaded Paul Ryan - died Kevin McCarthy - divorced Jim Jordan - beheaded? ..sounds promising for whoever is up next then  |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 17, 2023 20:32:25 GMT
Rep opponents of Jordan are pushing for a second vote. Presumably this means they think a) he'll lose again and b) losing again will mean he's done I don't think there is much willingness to allow Jordan chance after chance. He needs a big improvement on the second ballot if he wants to stay in this. |
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 17, 2023 20:39:42 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 17, 2023 20:54:40 GMT
So...after dafties wanting to defund the police, we now have dafties wanting to defund the Department of Justice. |
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