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Post by ntyuk1707 on Sept 22, 2023 14:17:56 GMT
votecompass.tvnz.co.nz/nz2023How much you agree with the parties ACT New Zealand (ACT) 78% New Zealand First (NZF) 73% National Party (NAT) 73% The Opportunities Party (TOP) 51% Labour Party (LAB) 42% Te Pāti Māori (TPM) 20% Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand (GRN) 13% National Party (NAT) 81% ACT New Zealand (ACT) 71% New Zealand First (NZF) 69% The Opportunities Party (TOP) 48% Labour Party (LAB) 45% Te Pāti Māori (TPM) 14% Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand (GRN) 12% Like aargauer I would probably lean more towards ACT. For me that would mainly be due to their position on scrapping Maori electorates and supporting the monarchy.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Sept 22, 2023 15:11:16 GMT
ACT New Zealand (ACT) 73% New Zealand First (NZF) 68% National Party (NAT) 68% The Opportunities Party (TOP) 53% Labour Party (LAB) 47% Te Pāti Māori (TPM) 27% Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand (GRN) 13%
Though the grid places me next to the National Party.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 22, 2023 15:29:57 GMT
Green 13% Maori 18% Lab 41% TOP 50% Nat 73% ACT 75% NZ 1st 85%
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Post by aargauer on Sept 22, 2023 15:44:26 GMT
ACT New Zealand (ACT) 73% New Zealand First (NZF) 68% National Party (NAT) 68% The Opportunities Party (TOP) 53% Labour Party (LAB) 47% Te Pāti Māori (TPM) 27% Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand (GRN) 13%
Though the grid places me next to the National Party.
The grid is a misunderstanding of the political compass. The y axis - libertarian / authoritarian is not the same as socially liberal / social conservative. Most libertarians are pretty moderate socially, and both "social liberals" and "social conservatives" tend to be authoritarian - although this is not absolute. Social views are not one dimensional.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Sept 22, 2023 17:19:51 GMT
TPM 76% Green 73% Lab 61% TOP 58% NZF 40% National 37% ACT 29%
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 24, 2023 8:26:50 GMT
TPM 69 TOP 68 GRN 68 LAB 65 NZF 38 NAT 38 ACT 28
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Post by johnloony on Sept 24, 2023 9:38:51 GMT
Labour 57 Opportunities 55 National 53 NZ First 51 Te Pāti Māori 45 ACT 41 Green 36
Garbage result, because I don’t know about most of the issues. For example “should X be more or less?” - that depends on what X is at the moment (which I don’t know). Would have been better to ask me absolutes rather than relatives. Put me higher on Labour than National, even though I said I voted National last time. Most important issue? Climate change - but it put Green lowest.
When it asked me “how likeable do you find (Party Leader)?” I answered “Don’t Know” to all of them, except Zero for Winston Peters.
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Post by pericles on Sept 25, 2023 7:44:14 GMT
Luxon confirmed the obvious today by revealing that if Winston Peters holds the balance of power in the results, he will "pick up the phone". Luxon saying this is needed to stop a 'Coalition of Chaos' (reusing Tory talking points lol) looks dubious when these would be his coalition partners. (tweets are from three years ago) The latest Newshub poll suggested Luxon might need to 'pick up the phone'. National and ACT are on 47.9% (National 39.1%, ACT 8.8%), vs the combination of Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party on 42.9% (Labour-26.5% (!), Greens 14.2%, Maori 2.2%). NZ First was on 5.2%, just over the threshold. That means National and ACT are projected to get 60 seats, the left gets 54 (Labour's 33 seat caucus would mean it's virtually halved from 2020), and NZ First would take 6 seats. Another catastrophic finding for Labour is that Luxon now leads Hipkins 24%-19% as preferred Prime Minister. This poll takes into account the first leader's debate, which looked like a draw. Early voting starts in a week and over half of the vote could be cast even before October 14. Labour's support may have finally flatlined (and at least the Greens are up), but the trend over this year-and the whole second term-has been absolutely brutal.
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Post by stb12 on Sept 25, 2023 8:48:36 GMT
Luxon confirmed the obvious today by revealing that if Winston Peters holds the balance of power in the results, he will "pick up the phone". Luxon saying this is needed to stop a 'Coalition of Chaos' (reusing Tory talking points lol) looks dubious when these would be his coalition partners. (tweets are from three years ago) The latest Newshub poll suggested Luxon might need to 'pick up the phone'. National and ACT are on 47.9% (National 39.1%, ACT 8.8%), vs the combination of Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party on 42.9% (Labour-26.5% (!), Greens 14.2%, Maori 2.2%). NZ First was on 5.2%, just over the threshold. That means National and ACT are projected to get 60 seats, the left gets 54 (Labour's 33 seat caucus would mean it's virtually halved from 2020), and NZ First would take 6 seats. Another catastrophic finding for Labour is that Luxon now leads Hipkins 24%-19% as preferred Prime Minister. This poll takes into account the first leader's debate, which looked like a draw. Early voting starts in a week and over half of the vote could be cast even before October 14. Labour's support may have finally flatlined (and at least the Greens are up), but the trend over this year-and the whole second term-has been absolutely brutal. It strikes me that assuming a National-ACT government at least is inevitable then the opposition would probably prefer NZF to have some involvement, as they’re more to the left on economic issues
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Post by greenhert on Sept 25, 2023 10:32:45 GMT
Could an administrator please add "Other" to the poll above? Also, Green is listed twice in said poll options.
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Post by nyx on Sept 25, 2023 11:22:18 GMT
Odd quiz, and I didn't know how to answer some of the questions (perhaps thanks to not being from NZ). For example surely the women in sports question should be simply a decision made by the relevant regulatory body of each individual sport based on scientific evidence, rather than a remotely political topic. But my results were The Opportunities Party (TOP) 63% National Party (NAT) 62% Labour Party (LAB) 59% New Zealand First (NZF) 58% ACT New Zealand (ACT) 58% Te Pāti Māori (TPM) 49% Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand (GRN) 38%
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Post by jamie on Sept 25, 2023 17:02:34 GMT
It strikes me that assuming a National-ACT government at least is inevitable then the opposition would probably prefer NZF to have some involvement, as they’re more to the left on economic issues Depends which bit of the opposition. The more working class end would prefer NZF in government, the more ‘woke’ end would absolutely not.
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Post by ntyuk1707 on Oct 2, 2023 11:57:25 GMT
Advance voting now opened
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Post by pericles on Oct 4, 2023 1:34:51 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Oct 5, 2023 10:02:48 GMT
Not much sign of any late movement
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Post by pericles on Oct 5, 2023 21:15:16 GMT
Looks like it's over for Labour-voting is already open and most people will be voting before October 14. NZ First has committed not to form a coalition or support Labour through confidence and supply, so that is pretty definite. Still he has a history of trickery, and hasn't explicitly ruled out abstaining on confidence if the left somehow get more seats than National and ACT. National are now looking a bit panicked and warning voters not to put them in a coalition with NZ First, even when they ruled it in last week.
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Post by stb12 on Oct 5, 2023 21:33:00 GMT
Looks like it's over for Labour-voting is already open and most people will be voting before October 14. NZ First has committed not to form a coalition or support Labour through confidence and supply, so that is pretty definite. Still he has a history of trickery, and hasn't explicitly ruled out abstaining on confidence if the left somehow get more seats than National and ACT. National are now looking a bit panicked and warning voters not to put them in a coalition with NZ First, even when they ruled it in last week. You have to admire Winston’s ability to annoy and panic both sides of the spectrum
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Post by pericles on Oct 5, 2023 22:03:29 GMT
Looks like it's over for Labour-voting is already open and most people will be voting before October 14. NZ First has committed not to form a coalition or support Labour through confidence and supply, so that is pretty definite. Still he has a history of trickery, and hasn't explicitly ruled out abstaining on confidence if the left somehow get more seats than National and ACT. National are now looking a bit panicked and warning voters not to put them in a coalition with NZ First, even when they ruled it in last week. You have to admire Winston’s ability to annoy and panic both sides of the spectrum Yes he is certainly a force of personality. He is great at annoying the whole country by dragging out his decision making for weeks and sometimes months when he gets the balance of power too.
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Post by ntyuk1707 on Oct 6, 2023 11:36:04 GMT
So are the Maori electorates likely to be abolished after this election given the Nationals, NZ First and ACT's opposition to them?
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Post by jamie on Oct 6, 2023 19:36:46 GMT
So are the Maori electorates likely to be abolished after this election given the Nationals, NZ First and ACT's opposition to them? The Nationals are trying not to be seen as too focused on the Maori issue (though they oppose the most excessive impulses of the current government) so perhaps not. They officially do not support abolition, even though they obviously oppose them privately. Whether ACT and especially NZFirst could get a referendum on the subject is unclear.
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