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Post by johnloony on Oct 20, 2023 2:40:09 GMT
Only sour note is the Britain First vote  My theory is that the voters saw the bit about “boats” and not the rest. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 20, 2023 2:40:56 GMT
Tory candidate awol with declaration imminent Absolutely shameful He might have just gone for a pee or whatever |
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Post by maxque on Oct 20, 2023 2:45:50 GMT
He might have just gone for a pee or whatever BBC reports he ran to the nearest fire exit as the result was confirmed to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 3:20:02 GMT
Reform vote larger than the Labour majority in both seats. I'm not saying those voters would've backed the Tories, but it's notable.
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 20, 2023 3:23:15 GMT
LDs tied for sixth place. They didn't campaign or expect to retain their deposit here or whatever, but that was quite the low share.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 3:32:44 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Oct 20, 2023 3:37:34 GMT
Well, at least Eddie Hughes doesn’t have to give up the seat.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 3:49:24 GMT
I'm glad the Tories lost this one in particular. Their candidate was a bit of a moron by the sounds of it.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 20, 2023 3:51:51 GMT
I'm glad the Tories lost this one in particular. Their candidate was a bit of a moron by the sounds of it. Despite mostly agreeing with what the candidate said, surely it is a better case for local Conservatives to have Eddie as their MP? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 3:53:25 GMT
I'm glad the Tories lost this one in particular. Their candidate was a bit of a moron by the sounds of it. Despite mostly agreeing with what the candidate said, surely it is a better case for local Conservatives to have Eddie as their MP? Hughes is the proven product, and a solid performer, gaining a seat from Labour against the national swing. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 20, 2023 3:54:37 GMT
Despite mostly agreeing with what the candidate said, surely it is a better case for local Conservatives to have Eddie as their MP? Hughes is the proven product, and a solid performer, gaining a seat from Labour against the national swing. Also seems like a genuinely good chap. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 3:55:24 GMT
Hughes is the proven product, and a solid performer, gaining a seat from Labour against the national swing. Also seems like a genuinely good chap. Yes. The Tories dodged a bullet here. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 20, 2023 5:02:43 GMT
Turnout reported as 35.9%, 25630 So an exciting and important event that failed to engage two-thirds of the electorate at all! It would be very foolish to take it either seriously or to make any extrapolation from it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 5:19:13 GMT
Labour majority / Reform Party vote
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 20, 2023 5:33:23 GMT
OTOH is the 2nd biggest Con > Lab swing since the war! But with way under half the electorate bothering to turn out at all! For very obvious reasons a large number of conservative-inclined voters have sat this one out, but not as many as would have done so 6-months back. A reverse and a slap in the face. Reform doing damage but still minor damage, even if it probably helped the defeat? Don't run away with the idea that most Reform voters think that a Labour win is the worst nightmare because it isn't. Their worst nightmare would have been a narrow Conservative win. And you can all stop being triumphalist about the Conservative reverses, as in 2019 they had a massive win, and could do the same again even in the 2020s, with this fickle, febrile electorate. Small earthquakes. Not many dead. Get over yourselves on these low TO polls. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 20, 2023 5:54:40 GMT
He might have just gone for a pee or whatever BBC reports he ran to the nearest fire exit as the result was confirmed to him. I think we've established lately that BBC reports have no credibility |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 20, 2023 5:56:51 GMT
Nearly 10% for parties to the right of the Conservatives and with even the lowest polling of these beating both Lib Dems and Greens is quality
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 20, 2023 6:50:00 GMT
The Labour results of the 1990s and the further-right-than-the-Conservatives vote of the 1970s. What a combination.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2023 7:03:06 GMT
BBC reports he ran to the nearest fire exit as the result was confirmed to him. I think we've established lately that BBC reports have no credibility Well this is exactly what he did do, but I don't think it really matters either way. Are losing candidates expected to make speeches these days?
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Post by rcronald on Oct 20, 2023 7:05:37 GMT
I think we've established lately that BBC reports have no credibility Well this is exactly what he did do, but I don't think it really matters either way. Are losing candidates expected to make speeches these days?
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