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Post by iainbhx on Jun 23, 2023 20:46:14 GMT
Why "77"? Does it have some scriptural or political relevance (like "88" for example)? Explanation here: tomdarwood.weebly.comOh dear. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 23, 2023 21:00:07 GMT
Why "77"? Does it have some scriptural or political relevance (like "88" for example)? Explanation here: tomdarwood.weebly.comOh crumbs. He got 77 votes in Barking in 2010, and it refers to the 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine. It reminds me of an idea I once had of registering a party description or party name like "Two Thousand Three Hundred And" so the Returning Officer is forced to say "John Cartwright, Two Thousand Three Hundred And Fifteen" |
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Post by froome on Jun 24, 2023 5:31:55 GMT
Oh crumbs. He got 77 votes in Barking in 2010, and it refers to the 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine. It reminds me of an idea I once had of registering a party description or party name like "Two Thousand Three Hundred And" so the Returning Officer is forced to say "John Cartwright, Two Thousand Three Hundred And Fifteen" You lack ambition. Thirty thousand, three hundred and... would be far more impressive. 😏 |
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 24, 2023 5:41:12 GMT
interstingly the Green Party candidate is called Green.
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Post by wallington on Jun 24, 2023 6:54:06 GMT
Hmm... After looking at the the SOPN here and in Selby, IMO there really should be further rules on what you can and can't call yourself on ballot papers.
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Post by Rutlander on Jun 24, 2023 8:22:23 GMT
interstingly the Green Party candidate is called Green. I always enjoyed that, among the candidates in the 2012 Corby by-election, was the Green Hornett. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jun 24, 2023 10:51:57 GMT
That's a big SOPN. Richard Hewison is leader of Rejoin EU. What kind of cruel parents call their son "Danny Boy"? Binface + Corbyn + Fox = Box Office. BINFACE, CORBYN AND FOX is an an anagram of CANNY BOX OFFICE BRAND. |
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Post by Max on Jun 24, 2023 17:54:11 GMT
Apparently, the one certainty in all the 5 (probably) pending by-elections is that Labour will be fielding a white male Well, given that Labour has a female majority on its Commons benches, that is just redressing the balance, isn't it? The colour issue ( just one Black male) stíll remains an issue, however. I think Labour currently have three black male MPs, Hendrick, Lammy and Lewis. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 24, 2023 18:53:30 GMT
Well, given that Labour has a female majority on its Commons benches, that is just redressing the balance, isn't it? The colour issue ( just one Black male) stíll remains an issue, however. I think Labour currently have three black male MPs, Hendrick, Lammy and Lewis. Ah, for some reason I thought Lammy was the only one. Happy to stand corrected, but I'm sure they'd like to do better. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 25, 2023 1:08:38 GMT
I think Labour currently have three black male MPs, Hendrick, Lammy and Lewis. Ah, for some reason I thought Lammy was the only one. Happy to stand corrected, but I'm sure they'd like to do better. The point is that Lammy is the black black one. Hendrick and Lewis are Half-black-half-white. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 25, 2023 1:25:40 GMT
Oh crumbs. He got 77 votes in Barking in 2010, and it refers to the 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine. It reminds me of an idea I once had of registering a party description or party name like "Two Thousand Three Hundred And" so the Returning Officer is forced to say "John Cartwright, Two Thousand Three Hundred And Fifteen" You lack ambition. Thirty thousand, three hundred and... would be far more impressive. 😏 I was thinking in terms of local elections. Obviously for parliamentary elections, the description would be "Thirty Seven Thousand And". |
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Post by YL on Jun 25, 2023 6:07:16 GMT
Hmm... After looking at the the SOPN here and in Selby, IMO there really should be further rules on what you can and can't call yourself on ballot papers. If you look on the agents list you can find their real names. Now, OK, I can believe that Edmund John Gemmell is known as Ed Gemmell; indeed this is his name given on Buckinghamshire's list of councillors. But is there any real sense in which, say, Kingsley Julian Duncan Hamilton is known as Kingsley Hamilton Anti Ulez? The worst example of this was in the 2016 Batley & Spen by-election when a far right party registered the description "By-Election Protest" (which I think would not now be allowed) and their candidate stood under the name "Corbyn Anti", appearing on the ballot paper as ANTI Corbyn. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 25, 2023 6:11:18 GMT
Hmm... After looking at the the SOPN here and in Selby, IMO there really should be further rules on what you can and can't call yourself on ballot papers. If you look on the agents list you can find their real names. Now, OK, I can believe that Edmund John Gemmell is known as Ed Gemmell; indeed this is his name given on Buckinghamshire's list of councillors. But is there any real sense in which, say, Kingsley Julian Duncan Hamilton is known as Kingsley Hamilton Anti Ulez?The worst example of this was in the 2016 Batley & Spen by-election when a far right party registered the description "By-Election Protest" (which I think would not now be allowed) and their candidate stood under the name "Corbyn Anti", appearing on the ballot paper as ANTI Corbyn. Presumably he self identifies as a zone where there is no tax on older vehicles? |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jun 25, 2023 6:40:17 GMT
There are quite a few strange names or naming particles on that paper, not all of them self-inflicted. Honestly feels a bit like a weak Monty Python knockoff.
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Post by YL on Jun 25, 2023 7:20:44 GMT
"Danny Boy Beales" appears thus as the candidate name on the list of agents as well.
Cameron Swaran Bell's agent is Tejpal Kaur Barnes, who I presume is the previously mentioned former Hillingdon Mayor Teji Barnes (who is his mother). She lost her seat in 2022 so this doesn't go into the defections thread.
Piers Corbyn, "77 Joseph", "Count Binface", Steve Gardner (SDP), Richard Hewison (Rejoin EU), Kingsley Hamilton and Leo Phaure are their own agents (under real names where relevant).
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Post by aargauer on Jun 25, 2023 7:53:37 GMT
I think Labour currently have three black male MPs, Hendrick, Lammy and Lewis. Ah, for some reason I thought Lammy was the only one. Happy to stand corrected, but I'm sure they'd like to do better. Well according to census definitions, yes he is the only one. The other two are mixed race. |
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Post by iang on Jun 25, 2023 8:03:27 GMT
I have tried to make some sense of this and failed, other than that he thinks he ought to be the Next Archbishop of Canterbury, if I read it remotely correctly. Any theologian amongst us - greenchristian ? - able to do a better job of deciphering where he is coming from spiritually? |
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Post by skyep on Jun 25, 2023 8:18:39 GMT
Ah, for some reason I thought Lammy was the only one. Happy to stand corrected, but I'm sure they'd like to do better. Well according to census definitions, yes he is the only one. The other two are mixed race. im pretty sure the preferred way currently is that they (all three) are people of colour (poc/bipoc). |
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 25, 2023 8:40:21 GMT
I have tried to make some sense of this and failed, other than that he thinks he ought to be the Next Archbishop of Canterbury, if I read it remotely correctly. Any theologian amongst us - greenchristian ? - able to do a better job of deciphering where he is coming from spiritually? What's on his website is so far removed from any notable Christian tradition that I couldn't put a theological label on him. He clearly has some background within Anglicanism, given the repeated mentions of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Book of Common Prayer (though he doesn't appear to be aware of this year's developments within Anglicanism). But apart from that, it's all "lone weirdo who thinks he's some kind of unique prophet" territory (think Joseph Smith or Mohammed if they hadn't managed to get any followers and genuinely believed what they were saying). |
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Post by iang on Jun 25, 2023 8:42:29 GMT
Yes, turning random numbers into symbols isn't usually a good sign...
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