ricmk
Lib Dem
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Post by ricmk on Aug 9, 2023 18:41:50 GMT
“Vote Lib Dem to keep Festus as your experienced PCC“
I like it, maybe the Lib Dems should run with it.
Only local update is that the mood against Dorries has significantly soured in the past 3 weeks or so, with fly posting about her and councillors and town councils calling for her to stay or go. Up till now, this hasn’t happened but patience seems to have snapped - the local Tories seem to be distancing, ‚fresh start‘ messaging and all that.
Went for a walk in the area on Sunday, bizarrely the only political graffiti I saw was anti-Andrew Selous. Wasn’t aware he was the type to generate such outrage!
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Aug 9, 2023 19:18:56 GMT
Wekl tbh I have always been sceptical of the claims that this byelection would now never happen. Dorries despises the PM and only wishes him ill - it may even be she thinks that hanging around like a bad smell for a while won't help the Tories re-election prospects when the vacancy does occur. The only caveat is that while she’d clearly be happy to see Sunak suffer she does seem to be friends with the new Tory candidate for the seat and has endorsed him Bet that's going on all our leaflets.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 10, 2023 12:08:52 GMT
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The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 10, 2023 12:26:02 GMT
Well, there's no mistaking which seat Dorries represents there.
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Crimson King
Lib Dem
Be nice to each other and sing in tune
Posts: 9,770
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 10, 2023 13:14:06 GMT
If we do go down that road can we call the new law “Nadines Law” to maintain the helpful rule that laws named after people are bad ones
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 10, 2023 21:47:18 GMT
No signatures from Wolverhampton North East, I notice.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 10, 2023 23:13:08 GMT
No signatures from Wolverhampton North East, I notice. Bradford East is another one, and perhaps more surprisingly, two seats represented by Shinners in Norn Iron.
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J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 12, 2023 13:48:05 GMT
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Post by BossMan on Aug 12, 2023 13:49:12 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 14, 2023 16:31:19 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 15, 2023 8:49:12 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Aug 15, 2023 8:56:26 GMT
Like a lot of people I’ve never been a big fan of her but I just looked at the column and there’s more substance to it than is being suggested there because of the headline
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Post by Rutlander on Aug 15, 2023 10:05:02 GMT
Is she still employing her daughters in her MP's office? The potential loss of their sources of income might add to family pressure not to resign.
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It used to be Vote 2006
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Post by It used to be Vote 2006 on Aug 15, 2023 10:38:24 GMT
Anyone who has worked for an MP/in Parliament or has any detailed understanding of what MPs actually do, even at second-hand, would know that. I find it hard to credit that an established group like Unlock Democracy contains no-one who fits that description.
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Post by timrollpickering on Aug 15, 2023 15:08:38 GMT
And the director of Unlock Democracy is none other than Tom Brake, ex MP.
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Harry Hayfield
Green
Cavalier Gentleman (as in 17th century Cavalier)
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Aug 16, 2023 8:50:36 GMT
Anyone who has worked for an MP/in Parliament or has any detailed understanding of what MPs actually do, even at second-hand, would know that. I find it hard to credit that an established group like Unlock Democracy contains no-one who fits that description.
Perhaps therefore an MP's hours should be set down as "Working Hours: Parliamentary Sesssions 2.30pm to close of the day's businesss, Outside Parliament: 9.00am - 5.00pm on constituency Fridays"
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Crimson King
Lib Dem
Be nice to each other and sing in tune
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 16, 2023 8:51:43 GMT
er…. no
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 17, 2023 8:16:31 GMT
And absolutely no work on weekends?
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Harry Hayfield
Green
Cavalier Gentleman (as in 17th century Cavalier)
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Aug 21, 2023 10:28:49 GMT
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Post by manchesterman on Aug 21, 2023 13:15:17 GMT
Heard a phone-in about Mad Nads last night. The topic expanded to the fact that she spends 0% of her work time doing her MP work and 100% of her work time engaged in her 'secondary jobs' (TV, Op Ed columns etc) and one of the suggestions for dealing with the wider question of MPs having 2nd jobs was brilliant IMO.
The caller suggested that - to save the public purse some dosh - MPs should be treated in a similar way to those less privileged who have to claim in-work benefits (UC, I guess). The proposal would be that an MP would be entitled to their annual salary (is it £86k now?) but if they undertake external work which takes them away from their primary duties as an MP, then their taxpayer-funded pay should be reduced accordingly.
For example, someone earning £50k as a non-exec Dir should have their MP pay reduced to £36k. Someone earning £200k pa for not doing their primary MP role, would be paid £0.
I thought the 2nd scenario was a little too severe, so it could be finessed a little so that their MP pay was reduced proportionately. So for the non-exec Dir doing 1 day a week should lose 20% of their MP salary, similarly for media work, reduce it proportionately. SO Nads for example I believe has a once-a-week show on GBeebies and probably writes 1 column a week for a rag (Mail? Express?), so she would lose two-fifths of her MP salary. This would mean that MPs who focus solely on representing their constituents who be paid 100% of their salary for 100% of their time/efforts and those who choose to do other jobs are paid proportionately.
Probably a few teething issues to be ironed out, but as an overall principle and framework, I think it has legs!
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