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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2022 13:30:44 GMT
This is exactly why I find by-elections so fascinating.
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Post by andrea on Oct 9, 2022 15:35:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2022 16:48:21 GMT
The timing of this tweet confuses me.
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Post by andrea on Oct 9, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
The timing of this tweet confuses me. Hustings and vote were this afternoon. He was campaigning for her yesterday ahead of the hustings. The leaflets he is holding say "Choose Ashley Dalton to be your West Lancashire by-election candidate" and are probably targeted to Labour members.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2022 17:11:21 GMT
The timing of this tweet confuses me. Hustings and vote were this afternoon. He was campaigning for her yesterday ahead of the hustings. The leaflets he is holding say "Choose Ashley Dalton to be your West Lancashire by-election candidate" and are probably targeted to Labour members. New one on me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2022 17:11:32 GMT
The timing of this tweet confuses me. Hustings and vote were this afternoon. He was campaigning for her yesterday ahead of the hustings. The leaflets he is holding say "Choose Ashley Dalton to be your West Lancashire by-election candidate" and are probably targeted to Labour members.
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Post by neilm on Oct 9, 2022 17:35:44 GMT
Hustings and vote were this afternoon. He was campaigning for her yesterday ahead of the hustings. The leaflets he is holding say "Choose Ashley Dalton to be your West Lancashire by-election candidate" and are probably targeted to Labour members. New one on me. You've never been involved with or seen an internal (s)election campaign?
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Post by batman on Oct 9, 2022 17:48:19 GMT
When I applied for Richmond Park, I was endorsed by left-wing groups but also a prominent more right-wing member. I did do a leaflet which included who was supporting me, though certainly not as slick-looking as this one. There's nothing unusual about this picture at all.
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Post by andrea on Oct 9, 2022 19:27:52 GMT
According to Michael Crick:
Ashley Dalton 63 votes Louise Harbour 23 votes Emma Fox 22 votes
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 9, 2022 19:58:36 GMT
According to Michael Crick: Ashley Dalton 63 votes Louise Harbour 23 votes Emma Fox 22 votes Puts that campaigning pic into a bit of context, Activist pictured out on the streets, big pile of glossy leaflets to deliver to all the potential electorate just before the actual electorate of just over 100 bodies were voting in a hall somewhere. What makes me think the pic was for effect and little to do with an actual campaign- it doesn't quite add up, does it? Maybe he was taking his leaflets to the entrance to the hall, but I don't think that was the message he wanted to convey.I think that might have been Dok's point?
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Post by galloglass on Oct 16, 2022 14:36:35 GMT
Only one Labour leaflet so far here in the constituency and thats a national one with no local issues or the candidate on.
Nothing from anyone else so far.
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 17, 2022 8:09:51 GMT
Has the writ been moved, is there a date?
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Post by John Chanin on Oct 17, 2022 8:49:20 GMT
Rosie Cooper has not “resigned”. She doesn’t need to. Taking up her NHS post on 1 November is an office of the crown, and automatically disqualifies her just as much as becoming steward of the Chiltern Hundreds.
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 22, 2022 12:50:46 GMT
Does that actually mean that she does not become Steward of etc etc ? Indeed it does.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 13:30:45 GMT
We have another candidate:
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 22, 2022 14:41:14 GMT
This is quite fascinating When was the last time an MP voluntarily left Parliament without becoming ( one of the two usual jobs ) ? Good question. George Robertson is the last MP to leave the house without either dying or being named in the wikipedia lists of stewarts of etc. Betty Boothroyd also went straight from the commons to the lords not long thereafter but is listed as a Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds. I suspect that the 1999 Lords Act that also removed the hereditaries is to blame; it passed in between. Anyways, Robertson did not leave by accepting a genuine "office of profit under the crown" like Mortimer. Neither did Gordon McMaster, though he too, ahem, left voluntarily. Though Robert Kilroy-Silk resigned to join the beeb, he was a "Steward". The last comparable case appears to be this guy more than 40 years ago.
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 22, 2022 21:12:37 GMT
You edited that wiki page didn't you? it's been years since i last edited a wiki page.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 23, 2022 22:02:20 GMT
The ElectionMaps UK Nowcast (which is my favourite as it shows all seats, percentages and majorities conveniently and is an average of all the polls as I understand it so isn’t as ludicrous as those having the Tories on <100 seats) has the Labour vote share for West Lancashire at 69%, a 26,000 majority. Conservative down to 19%. And a swathe of lost deposits down the road in Liverpool and inner city Manchester. The entirety of Cheshire is red. Tatton and Congleton would surely go independent or LD before Labour. They would be very hard to turn red unless the sky fell in.
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Post by maxque on Oct 23, 2022 22:03:59 GMT
The ElectionMaps UK Nowcast (which is my favourite as it shows all seats, percentages and majorities conveniently and is an average of all the polls as I understand it so isn’t as ludicrous as those having the Tories on <100 seats) has the Labour vote share for West Lancashire at 69%, a 26,000 majority. Conservative down to 19%. And a swathe of lost deposits down the road in Liverpool and inner city Manchester. The entirety of Cheshire is red. Tatton and Congleton would surely go independent or LD before Labour. They would be very hard to turn red unless the sky fell in. Well, Cheshire is Labour-run and it's not all thanks to Crewe.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 23, 2022 22:16:53 GMT
Tatton and Congleton would surely go independent or LD before Labour. They would be very hard to turn red unless the sky fell in. Well, Cheshire is Labour-run and it's not all thanks to Crewe. True, but you'd imagine much of the Labour strength in Congleton even in a bad year would be concentrated in Sandbach and maybe Alsager. Meanwhile in Tatton, Labour often don't run candidates at all. It isn't entirely impossible that Labour could win either seat but I could well imagine places like Wilmslow, Poynton or Disley voting for Tatton to go Lib Dem rather than Labour, as there's a strong demographic continuity from Cheadle and Hazel Grove.
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