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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Nov 13, 2022 10:16:23 GMT
Shows all that is wrong with the honours system, they should tell her to f off... you've just been an MP, you've done nothing special.
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Post by batman on Nov 13, 2022 10:46:36 GMT
although there has been some sort of explanation, this does not improve my opinion of Rosie Cooper.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 11:30:13 GMT
That's actually rather deflating isn't it (if true/accurate)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 15:16:32 GMT
I've removed West Lancashire from my number crunching spreadsheet, it's not guaranteed to actually happen before New Year so I'll wait till then.
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Post by stb12 on Nov 15, 2022 9:12:12 GMT
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Post by batman on Nov 15, 2022 9:31:55 GMT
not surprising really, she should have sorted this kind of thing out before announcing she was quitting, with all due respect to her.
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Post by matureleft on Nov 15, 2022 9:56:17 GMT
not surprising really, she should have sorted this kind of thing out before announcing she was quitting, with all due respect to her. I'd imagine that the NHS Trust will be finding this both unsatisfactory and embarrassing. |
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Post by Crimson King on Nov 15, 2022 12:06:43 GMT
not surprising really, she should have sorted this kind of thing out before announcing she was quitting, with all due respect to her. I'd imagine that the NHS Trust will be finding this both unsatisfactory and embarrassing. indeed, I wonder if they will have the balls to withdraw the offer |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 15, 2022 12:14:43 GMT
Its always possible they may feel some sympathy as well, given the situation. But yes, things should still have been planned better at her end.
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Post by John Chanin on Nov 15, 2022 13:02:04 GMT
not surprising really, she should have sorted this kind of thing out before announcing she was quitting, with all due respect to her. I'd imagine that the NHS Trust will be finding this both unsatisfactory and embarrassing. She's made a pig's ear of this, annoying everyone. |
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Post by aargauer on Nov 15, 2022 13:25:02 GMT
Why does she even want a gong? Or a big job at her age? What are her qualifications for this job?
The whole thing is weird.
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Post by matureleft on Nov 15, 2022 13:32:56 GMT
Its always possible they may feel some sympathy as well, given the situation. But yes, things should still have been planned better at her end. If the Times story is true this really is a rather grim business. Admittedly I'm no fan of the honours system so am unlikely to be sympathetic, but quite why should the party put her forward (and when?) when she is costing the party scarce cash by prompting a by-election? |
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 15, 2022 14:19:17 GMT
Its always possible they may feel some sympathy as well, given the situation. But yes, things should still have been planned better at her end. If the Times story is true this really is a rather grim business. Admittedly I'm no fan of the honours system so am unlikely to be sympathetic, but quite why should the party put her forward (and when?) when she is costing the party scarce cash by prompting a by-election? I think I read somewhere, but may be wrong, that she was seeking a peerage so as to continue to receive a level of security support/advice as a Parliamentarian. If true, it's understandable; but I agree that all these things should have been "sorted" before accepting the NHS post and going public. |
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Post by matureleft on Nov 15, 2022 16:01:47 GMT
If the Times story is true this really is a rather grim business. Admittedly I'm no fan of the honours system so am unlikely to be sympathetic, but quite why should the party put her forward (and when?) when she is costing the party scarce cash by prompting a by-election? I think I read somewhere, but may be wrong, that she was seeking a peerage so as to continue to receive a level of security support/advice as a Parliamentarian. If true, it's understandable; but I agree that all these things should have been "sorted" before accepting the NHS post and going public. Surely, if there is a continuing need, then it should be addressed, but that has no necessary link to being called Lady Somewhere! |
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Post by gibbon on Nov 17, 2022 9:23:27 GMT
Will all Conservative candidates either in this or any future by-election disclose whether they voted for Liz Truss in the first leadership election? I think we should be told.
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 17, 2022 9:26:40 GMT
Will all Conservative candidates either in this or any future by-election disclose whether they voted for Liz Truss in the first leadership election? I think we should be told. Do Labour candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? |
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 17, 2022 9:59:31 GMT
Will all Conservative candidates either in this or any future by-election disclose whether they voted for Liz Truss in the first leadership election? I think we should be told. Do Labour candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? Well, Labour are only allowing milquetoast true believers in Starmerite nothingness to stand. I would imagine it's the sort of issue which may emerge with Tories but given some local parties seemed genuinely taken with the Truss formula.... however it may be silly to lie as surely it would be known if someone had actively campaigned for Truss? |
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2022 9:59:58 GMT
it is a matter of public record who nominated Jeremy Corbyn, though not who voted for him. Those who did the former but not the latter have for the most part been public about it.
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Post by matureleft on Nov 17, 2022 10:26:17 GMT
Do Labour candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? Well, Labour are only allowing milquetoast true believers in Starmerite nothingness to stand. I would imagine it's the sort of issue which may emerge with Tories but given some local parties seemed genuinely taken with the Truss formula.... however it may be silly to lie as surely it would be known if someone had actively campaigned for Truss? The voting behaviour of Tory MPs in their elections is not disclosed, nor is it transparent from their statements. In the latest vote there were seemingly many nominees of Johnson and Mordaunt who dared not say that publicly and, even if they had, there’s no certainty that they’d vote that way. It’s a deceitful process in which, for many, the main purpose is their personal advancement. Labour leadership elections have that dimension too, but perhaps to a lesser extent. |
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Post by matureleft on Nov 17, 2022 10:27:35 GMT
it is a matter of public record who nominated Jeremy Corbyn, though not who voted for him. Those who did the former but not the latter have for the most part been public about it. Yes, but see my remarks. Truth is not a stranger in these contests but is certainly nuanced. |
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