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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 17, 2022 10:32:19 GMT
Do Labour candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? Well, Labour are only allowing milquetoast true believers in Starmerite nothingness to stand. I would imagine it's the sort of issue which may emerge with Tories but given some local parties seemed genuinely taken with the Truss formula.... however it may be silly to lie as surely it would be known if someone had actively campaigned for Truss? 49.6% of Labour members voted for Corbyn so it clearly wasn't just the left who voted for him. Almost certainly some of the candidates selected so far will have voted for Corbyn, even if they are not obvious lefties.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 17, 2022 10:37:19 GMT
Well, Labour are only allowing milquetoast true believers in Starmerite nothingness to stand. I would imagine it's the sort of issue which may emerge with Tories but given some local parties seemed genuinely taken with the Truss formula.... however it may be silly to lie as surely it would be known if someone had actively campaigned for Truss? The voting behaviour of Tory MPs in their elections is not disclosed, nor is it transparent from their statements. In the latest vote there were seemingly many nominees of Johnson and Mordaunt who dared not say that publicly and, even if they had, there’s no certainty that they’d vote that way. It’s a deceitful process in which, for many, the main purpose is their personal advancement. Labour leadership elections have that dimension too, but perhaps to a lesser extent. I don't think many actual Tory MPs who didn't declare voted Truss. She's not exactly popular. However there will be new candidates standing.....
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 17, 2022 11:04:16 GMT
Well, Labour are only allowing milquetoast true believers in Starmerite nothingness to stand. I would imagine it's the sort of issue which may emerge with Tories but given some local parties seemed genuinely taken with the Truss formula.... however it may be silly to lie as surely it would be known if someone had actively campaigned for Truss? 49.6% of Labour members voted for Corbyn so it clearly wasn't just the left who voted for him. Almost certainly some of the candidates selected so far will have voted for Corbyn, even if they are not obvious lefties. Certainly some of the soft left voted JC when Burnham's campaign effectively collapsed. It appears to me there are no "chances" being taken though a couple of the candidates have some interest in issues sometimes associated with the left
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Post by aargauer on Nov 17, 2022 11:11:17 GMT
Will all Conservative candidates either in this or any future by-election disclose whether they voted for Liz Truss in the first leadership election? I think we should be told. Do Labour candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? Do Conservative candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not?
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 17, 2022 11:24:13 GMT
Do Labour candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? Do Conservative candidates have to disclose whether they voted for Corbyn or not? About as many of those as Labour candidates voting for Truss, I would have thought?
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Post by neilm on Nov 19, 2022 15:28:01 GMT
Are Labour MP's actual votes recorded, or just who nominated who?
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Post by batman on Nov 19, 2022 16:22:35 GMT
the latter only. It's a secret ballot after nominations.
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Post by andrea on Nov 19, 2022 16:48:31 GMT
Are Labour MP's actual votes recorded, or just who nominated who? Used to be recorded when there was the electoral college with PLP having a portion. Not any more.
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Post by jm on Nov 28, 2022 21:27:44 GMT
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Post by batman on Nov 28, 2022 22:15:35 GMT
and the relevance to West Lancashire is?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 0:12:14 GMT
Really? Isn’t he a bit… ‘the time has passed’?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 19:43:21 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Nov 30, 2022 19:56:27 GMT
No peerage…lol
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Post by greenhert on Nov 30, 2022 20:07:28 GMT
Finally-although the by-election will now end up being in January 2023 at the earliest.
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 30, 2022 20:48:55 GMT
But a stewardry and bailiwick. Is she not taking that NHS job after all or did she just not want to leave without some kind of flummery?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 20:50:59 GMT
But a stewardry and bailiwick. Is she not taking that NHS job after all or did she just not want to leave without some kind of flummery? That's how MPs resign. It's a legal fiction, not a job.
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 30, 2022 20:53:36 GMT
But a stewardry and bailiwick. Is she not taking that NHS job after all or did she just not want to leave without some kind of flummery? That's how MPs resign. It's a legal fiction, not a job. It's a legal fiction that's not required in her case! See page 7 of the thread.
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Post by Wisconsin on Nov 30, 2022 21:12:43 GMT
I’m disappointed that the Chiltern Hundreds was used.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 21:15:26 GMT
That's how MPs resign. It's a legal fiction, not a job. It's a legal fiction that's not required in her case! See page 7 of the thread. It is required if she's not taken up her job yet 😉
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Post by bjornhattan on Nov 30, 2022 21:17:02 GMT
I’m disappointed that the Chiltern Hundreds was used. I agree - it'd be much easier for her to pop across to Northstead...
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