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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 14, 2022 11:33:56 GMT
ARUN DC; Barnham (Con died)
Candidates:
BUTCHER, Alan Terence (Labour)
JONES, Graham Lewis (Conservative)
WALLSGROVE, Sue (Green)
2019: Con 932, 753, 659; Grn 822; LD 654, 498; Lab 400
2015: Con 1994, 1644, 1491; UKIP 1187, 1041; Ind 1115; Grn 1033; Lab 710
Current Council: Con 23; LD 16; Ind 6; Arun Ind Grp 4; Grn 2; Ind Ind 1; Lab 1; 1 vacancy
CANNOCK CHASE DC; Hednesford North (Con resigned)
Candidates:
HARBOROW, Christopher Graham (Independent)
HARRISON, Laura Caroline (Conservative)
JOHNSON, Pam (Labour)
MAWLE, Darrell Lee (Chase Community Indepents)
2022: Lab 473; Con 426; CCI 400
2021:Con 634; Lab 537; CCI 441
2019: Grn 517; Lab 389; Con 335
2018: Lab 635; Con 472; Grn 274
2016: Lab 697; UKIP 382; Con 317; Grn 59
2015: Lab 1307; Con 1000; UKIP 806; Grn 137
2014: Lab 653; UKIP 562; Con 397
2012: Lab 924; Con 392; Chase Ind 171
2011: Lab 994; Con 526; LD 178
2010: Lab 1247; Con 1035; LD 541; BNP 393
2008: Con 549; Lab 508; LD 156; UKIP 138
2007: Lab 624; Con 493; LD 238
2006: Lab 595; Con 501; LD 275
Nov 04by: Lab 419; Con 248; LD 235
2004: Lab 578, 511; Con 427, 283; LD 401, 389; Ind 229, 180
2003: Lab 602; Con 454; LD 256
2002: Lab 779, 770, 769; Con 397, 276, 254; LD 274, 235, 228; Rock’n’Roll Loon Party 76
Vacancy is for the 2021-2024 term. Darrell Mawle was the unsuccessful Chase Ind candidate in May and last year. The Green elected in 2019 is now part of the Chase Community Independents.
Current Council: Con 24; Lab 8; CCI 3; Grn 2; LD 2; Ind 1; 1 vacancy
HARTLEPOOL UA; Foggy Furze (Ind resigned)
Candidates:
McKINSTRAY, Barry (Liberal Democrat)
SHURMER, Pamela (Conservative)
STALLARD, Connor (Independent)
THOMPSON, Carole (Labour)
2022: Lab 631; Ind 490; Con 391; LD 82
2021: Ind 1007, 742; Con 994; Lab 661, 620, 560; Veterans and People’ Party 479, 380, 265; RefUK 127; For Britain 69
The resigning independent topped the poll in 2021, so seat would be up again in 2024. The Lib Dem tood here in May. Connor Stallard stood here as an independent on the old ward boundaries in 2019, coming 6th with 91 votes (5.1%) as the Veterans and People’s Party took the seat.
Current Council: Con 14; Lab 11; Ind 5; Hartlepool Ind Union 2; Putting Seaton First 2; Hartlepool People 1; 1 vacancy
LANCASTER DC; Warton (Con resigned)
Candidates:
HARBISON, Iain Scott (Conservative)
KENRICK, Faith (Labour)
PARSONS, Jane (Liberal Democrat)
TYLDESLEY, Sue (Green)
2019: Con 307; Grn 214; Lab 129
2015: Con 529; Lab 266; Ind 248; Grn 178
This will be the 10th by-election in Lancaster this term. Sue Tyldesley stood here for the Greens back in 2015.
Current Council: Lab 16; Green and Ind Grp 14 (11 Grn & 3 Ind I think); Con 9; Morecambe Bay Ind 6; Ind Grp 5; Bay Ind Grp 4; LD 4; Non-aligned Ind 1; 1 vacancy
WEST SUSSEX CC; Felpham (Con died)
Candidates:
DARLING, David (Conservative)
MEAGHER, David John (Labour)
PARKER, Richard John (Independent)
WILD, Jaine (Independent)
2021: Con 1642; Ind 629; LD 323; Grn 283; Lab 256
2017: Con 1846; Ind 423; Lab 241; LD 231; Grn 104
Richard Parker was the runner-up here last May. Despite having been represented by the same Conservative councillor, Barnham (see above, Arun DC) is not in this division, but in Fontwell division.
Current Council: Con 46; LD 11; Lab 9; Grn and Ind Alliance 3 (2 Ind and 1 Grn); 1 vacancy
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Post by lackeroftalent on Aug 14, 2022 14:55:45 GMT
LANCASTER DC; Current Council: Lab 16; Green and Ind Grp 14 ( 11 Grn & 3 Ind I think); Con 9; Morecambe Bay Ind 6; Ind Grp 5; Bay Ind Grp 4; LD 4; Non-aligned Ind 1; 1 vacancy All fourteen councillors of the Green and Independents Group are Green Party members. Three of the four eco-socialists (ex-Labour) in the group joined the party last month. The remaining eco-socialist is now listed as non-aligned Independent. |
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Post by carolus on Aug 14, 2022 16:41:14 GMT
ARUN DC; Barnham (Con died) Candidates: BUTCHER, Alan Terence (Labour) JONES, Graham Lewis (Conservative) WALLSGROVE, Sue (Green) 2019: Con 932, 753, 659; Grn 822; LD 654, 498; Lab 400 2015: Con 1994, 1644, 1491; UKIP 1187, 1041; Ind 1115; Grn 1033; Lab 710 Current Council: Con 23; LD 16; Ind 6; Arun Ind Grp 4; Grn 2; Ind Ind 1; Lab 1; 1 vacancy I hope there is some sort of agreement here between LD and Green, rather than us being unable to find a candidate in a ward in which we were close in 2019 and a council where we were largest party... |
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Post by pl on Aug 14, 2022 16:53:26 GMT
ARUN DC; Barnham (Con died) Candidates: BUTCHER, Alan Terence (Labour) JONES, Graham Lewis (Conservative) WALLSGROVE, Sue (Green) 2019: Con 932, 753, 659; Grn 822; LD 654, 498; Lab 400 2015: Con 1994, 1644, 1491; UKIP 1187, 1041; Ind 1115; Grn 1033; Lab 710 Current Council: Con 23; LD 16; Ind 6; Arun Ind Grp 4; Grn 2; Ind Ind 1; Lab 1; 1 vacancy I hope there is some sort of agreement here between LD and Green, rather than us being unable to find a candidate in a ward in which we were close in 2019 and a council where we were largest party... When will the Lib Dems learn? Election pacts is what precipitated their demise a hundred years ago and the growth of the Labour Party. Why do them with the Greens and send the LDs into insignificance? The Green Party at the moment has the branding, publicly recognisable policies and captures the zeitgeist for a section of the centre-left to left. I'm not even sure I know what LD policies are at the moment, and most of their MPs would indeed be Pointless answers. Why give the Greens any room to grow? They won't be so forgiving to the LDs in future? |
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Post by carolus on Aug 14, 2022 17:09:33 GMT
I hope there is some sort of agreement here between LD and Green, rather than us being unable to find a candidate in a ward in which we were close in 2019 and a council where we were largest party... When will the Lib Dems learn? Election pacts is what precipitated their demise a hundred years ago and the growth of the Labour Party. Why do them with the Greens and send the LDs into insignificance? The Green Party at the moment has the branding, publicly recognisable policies and captures the zeitgeist for a section of the centre-left to left. I'm not even sure I know what LD policies are at the moment, and most of their MPs would indeed be Pointless answers. Why give the Greens any room to grow? They won't be so forgiving to the LDs in future? Regardless of the merits or otherwise of such an agreement, I would rather that there is a clear, deliberate reason that we are not standing instead of simply not being able to find a candidate. |
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Post by froome on Aug 14, 2022 17:18:28 GMT
When will the Lib Dems learn? Election pacts is what precipitated their demise a hundred years ago and the growth of the Labour Party. Why do them with the Greens and send the LDs into insignificance? The Green Party at the moment has the branding, publicly recognisable policies and captures the zeitgeist for a section of the centre-left to left. I'm not even sure I know what LD policies are at the moment, and most of their MPs would indeed be Pointless answers. Why give the Greens any room to grow? They won't be so forgiving to the LDs in future? Regardless of the merits or otherwise of such an agreement, I would rather that there is a clear, deliberate reason that we are not standing instead of simply not being able to find a candidate. Looking at the 2019 result, it seems almost certain there will be an agreement between the two parties, as they had 3 candidates between them for the 3 seats. However, it isn't unusual for either party to struggle to find candidates willing to stand in seats, especially ones they have a realistic chance of winning. I know from my own experiences here in Bath, where the Lib Dems must have one of their strongest local parties, how much the Lib Dems struggle to find willing candidates, as they spend much time trying to poach ours! |
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Post by jamie on Aug 14, 2022 17:50:05 GMT
HARTLEPOOL UA; Foggy Furze (Ind resigned) Candidates: McKINSTRAY, Barry (Liberal Democrat) SHURMER, Pamela (Conservative) STALLARD, Connor (Independent) THOMPSON, Carole (Labour) 2022: Lab 631; Ind 490; Con 391; LD 82 2021: Ind 1007, 742; Con 994; Lab 661, 620, 560; Veterans and People’ Party 479, 380, 265; RefUK 127; For Britain 69 The resigning independent topped the poll in 2021, so seat would be up again in 2024. The Lib Dem stood here in May. Connor Stallard stood here as an independent on the old ward boundaries in 2019, coming 6th with 91 votes (5.1%) as the Veterans and People’s Party took the seat. Current Council: Con 14; Lab 11; Ind 5; Hartlepool Ind Union 2; Putting Seaton First 2; Hartlepool People 1; 1 vacancy The Labour candidate stood in Headland and Harbour in May, coming a credible 2nd to the Independent Union. Given the result earlier this year I would expect a Labour gain, especially as there’s no credible independent. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 14, 2022 19:57:40 GMT
ARUN DC; Barnham (Con died) Candidates: BUTCHER, Alan Terence (Labour) JONES, Graham Lewis (Conservative) WALLSGROVE, Sue (Green) 2019: Con 932, 753, 659; Grn 822; LD 654, 498; Lab 400 2015: Con 1994, 1644, 1491; UKIP 1187, 1041; Ind 1115; Grn 1033; Lab 710 Current Council: Con 23; LD 16; Ind 6; Arun Ind Grp 4; Grn 2; Ind Ind 1; Lab 1; 1 vacancy I hope there is some sort of agreement here between LD and Green, rather than us being unable to find a candidate in a ward in which we were close in 2019 and a council where we were largest party... TBH, when I first looked at the SOPN I was half expecting to find a reciprocal arrangement with Felpham - but then I looked at Felpham and there was neither Green nor Lib Dem there (perhaps tacit support for the indy). |
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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 14, 2022 20:00:56 GMT
LANCASTER DC; Current Council: Lab 16; Green and Ind Grp 14 ( 11 Grn & 3 Ind I think); Con 9; Morecambe Bay Ind 6; Ind Grp 5; Bay Ind Grp 4; LD 4; Non-aligned Ind 1; 1 vacancy All fourteen councillors of the Green and Independents Group are Green Party members. Three of the four eco-socialists (ex-Labour) in the group joined the party last month. The remaining eco-socialist is now listed as non-aligned Independent. Are you sure about that - the three joined with the Greens to form the Green & Independent Group last month, but if they joined the Green party where does the Independent bit of that group come from? |
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Post by lackeroftalent on Aug 14, 2022 20:38:49 GMT
All fourteen councillors of the Green and Independents Group are Green Party members. Three of the four eco-socialists (ex-Labour) in the group joined the party last month. The remaining eco-socialist is now listed as non-aligned Independent. Are you sure about that - the three joined with the Greens to form the Green & Independent Group last month, but if they joined the Green party where does the Independent bit of that group come from? I think the independent bit is a hangover from when the five eco-socialist defectors from Labour joined up to run the council with the Greens. The Greens won 10 seats in 2019. They gained one in May at a by-election. Then three more when those eco-socialists formally joined. www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/three-lancaster-city-councillors-switch-24595180The article states that two of the new members (Faye Penny and Alistair Sinclair) will be standing next year as Green Party candidates in John O'Gaunt ward. |
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Post by iang on Aug 14, 2022 20:47:06 GMT
I'm certainly concerned that we have only got two candidates out of five wards, and one of those will I presume be a token gesture
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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 14, 2022 21:34:53 GMT
Are you sure about that - the three joined with the Greens to form the Green & Independent Group last month, but if they joined the Green party where does the Independent bit of that group come from? I think the independent bit is a hangover from when the five eco-socialist defectors from Labour joined up to run the council with the Greens. The Greens won 10 seats in 2019. They gained one in May at a by-election. Then three more when those eco-socialists formally joined. www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/three-lancaster-city-councillors-switch-24595180The article states that two of the new members (Faye Penny and Alistair Sinclair) will be standing next year as Green Party candidates in John O'Gaunt ward. Thanks - that does make it a bit clearer. |
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Post by John Chanin on Aug 15, 2022 6:14:15 GMT
We have the same phenomenon in the Redditch by-elections coming up shortly. While I can understand the logic and desire for 'double-hatting' in two-tier systems (while generally disapproving it), representing a completely different area on county and district baffles me.
How common is this? Are two examples coming up in close proximity simply random chance?
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Post by froome on Aug 15, 2022 6:59:45 GMT
I'm certainly concerned that we have only got two candidates out of five wards, and one of those will I presume be a token gesture Well you are standing in the Lancaster ward for the first time for some years, so that must be seen as an improvement. The odd-looking one for me is Felpham, where you would have a slim chance (as would others, including ourselves who are also not standing), so I wonder whether there is an informal agreement with one of the Independents? |
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Post by iang on Aug 15, 2022 7:05:15 GMT
I'm certainly concerned that we have only got two candidates out of five wards, and one of those will I presume be a token gesture Well you are standing in the Lancaster ward for the first time for some years, so that must be seen as an improvement. The odd-looking one for me is Felpham, where you would have a slim chance (as would others, including ourselves who are also not standing), so I wonder whether there is an informal agreement with one of the Independents? Lancaster is the one I presume we will fight properly as we have done well in a number of by elections there in recent months. As you say, the one that looks the most odd is Sussex |
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Post by andrewp on Aug 15, 2022 7:30:43 GMT
We have the same phenomenon in the Redditch by-elections coming up shortly. While I can understand the logic and desire for 'double-hatting' in two-tier systems (while generally disapproving it), representing a completely different area on county and district baffles me. How common is this? Are two examples coming up in close proximity simply random chance? There is a Labour triple hatter in Bridgwater, Leigh Redman who has moved between areas of the town a lot. He currently represents Hamp on Bridgwater Town council. ( this is in Bridgwater South county division). From 2011-19, he represented Dunwear, which is split between Bridgwater East and Bridgwater North divisions He represents Hamp on Sedgemoor District Council ( he previously served Dunwear ward on that too) He is the councillor for Bridgwater South on Somerset County Council. ( includes Hamp) He will represent Bridgwater North and Central on the new unitary. That means that he has represented nearly all the Labour bits of the town at one stage or another in the last decade, |
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 15, 2022 8:00:13 GMT
We have the same phenomenon in the Redditch by-elections coming up shortly. While I can understand the logic and desire for 'double-hatting' in two-tier systems (while generally disapproving it), representing a completely different area on county and district baffles me. How common is this? Are two examples coming up in close proximity simply random chance? There is a Labour triple hatter in Bridgwater, Leigh Redman who has moved between areas of the town a lot. He currently represents Hamp on Bridgwater Town council. ( this is in Bridgwater South county division). From 2011-19, he represented Dunwear, which is split between Bridgwater East and Bridgwater North divisions He represents Hamp on Sedgemoor District Council ( he previously served Dunwear ward on that too) He is the councillor for Bridgwater South on Somerset County Council. ( includes Hamp) He will represent Bridgwater North and Central on the new unitary. That means that he has represented nearly all the Labour bits of the town at one stage or another in the last decade, so counting the ghost authority and the town council he's actually quadruple hatting? Impressive. |
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Post by andrewp on Aug 15, 2022 8:11:59 GMT
There is a Labour triple hatter in Bridgwater, Leigh Redman who has moved between areas of the town a lot. He currently represents Hamp on Bridgwater Town council. ( this is in Bridgwater South county division). From 2011-19, he represented Dunwear, which is split between Bridgwater East and Bridgwater North divisions He represents Hamp on Sedgemoor District Council ( he previously served Dunwear ward on that too) He is the councillor for Bridgwater South on Somerset County Council. ( includes Hamp) He will represent Bridgwater North and Central on the new unitary. That means that he has represented nearly all the Labour bits of the town at one stage or another in the last decade, so counting the ghost authority and the town council he's actually quadruple hatting? Impressive. I think there are probably a few councillors in Somerset who are Town, District, County and Shadow Unitary councillors. I can think of 3 more of the top of my head. I might work out how many there are at some point, |
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 15, 2022 8:37:13 GMT
We have the same phenomenon in the Redditch by-elections coming up shortly. While I can understand the logic and desire for 'double-hatting' in two-tier systems (while generally disapproving it), representing a completely different area on county and district baffles me. How common is this? Are two examples coming up in close proximity simply random chance? There is a Labour triple hatter in Bridgwater, Leigh Redman who has moved between areas of the town a lot. He currently represents Hamp on Bridgwater Town council. ( this is in Bridgwater South county division). From 2011-19, he represented Dunwear, which is split between Bridgwater East and Bridgwater North divisions He represents Hamp on Sedgemoor District Council ( he previously served Dunwear ward on that too) He is the councillor for Bridgwater South on Somerset County Council. ( includes Hamp) He will represent Bridgwater North and Central on the new unitary. That means that he has represented nearly all the Labour bits of the town at one stage or another in the last decade, He has quite an appropriate surname for a Labour councillor! |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Aug 15, 2022 9:41:03 GMT
Not sure, but I think the Con candidate in Barnham is the same Graham Jones who was an candidate for West Sussex (Felpham) in 2017 (Ind) and 2013 (UKIP), and for Arun (Middleton) in 2019 (Ind) and Felpham West in 2015 (UKIP)> Happy to be corrected if not.
A friend of mine lives in Barnham (Arun), and has posted on facebook about the election. He's had a leaflet from the Tories which is very proud of the fact the recycling rate in Arun is 42% (doesn't mention this puts them 163rd inn the country), and wants lots of houses buit - but everywhere else but Arun (should get him some nimby points).
My friend has also had his door knocked by the Green candidate. He (a pretty staunch Labour guy) seems to have been quite impressed by her. I'm impressed by the fact she knocked on his door - Joe is very rural and very difficult to get to. The Greens are obviously taking this very seriously.
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