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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 4:53:32 GMT
Have you made any progress with this? Thanks for asking. Unfortunately no. Months ago i contacted their Home Office, but they came up with not more than their archive, which i had detected myself and where there is nothing in EXCEL/CSV. Copying&pasting it into tables would be endless. Italy desperately needs to digitize. |
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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 6:22:23 GMT
Given this speech, it'll be interesting when Meloni and Macron meet for the first time. When was the speech given? Because I’m literally salivating here…. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Sept 28, 2022 6:24:08 GMT
2022 vs 2018 at the Camera dei Deputati (Senate had different electorate in 2018 and it was only for those aged 25+) Centre-right from 37% to 43.78% Huge turnaround internally. FDI goes from 4.35% to 25.99% Lega goes from 7.35% to 8.77% Forza Italia goes from 14% to 8.11% Movimento 5 Stelle from 32.68% to 15.43% Partito Democratico & allies from 22.45% (but PD & allies + LEU was already at 25.84%) to 26.13% PD stable. From 18.76 to 19.07% +Europe from 2.56 to 28.3% LEU (not allied to PD) polled 3.39% in 2018. Green/Left got 3.63% Calenda/Renzi got 7.79% in the end. I think +Europe should say 2.83% not 28.3% |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 28, 2022 6:44:15 GMT
Thanks for asking. Unfortunately no. Months ago i contacted their Home Office, but they came up with not more than their archive, which i had detected myself and where there is nothing in EXCEL/CSV. Copying&pasting it into tables would be endless. Italy desperately needs to digitize. That's not the problem - it's their inClination to aesthetically very pleasant, but shrill and fleshy makeUps with lots of impractical partyLogos aso. (i.e. exactly the reason, why we love il bel paese...). |
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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 6:50:35 GMT
Italy desperately needs to digitize. That's not the problem - it's their inClination to aesthetically very pleasant, but shrill and fleshy makeUps with lots of impractical partyLogos aso. (i.e. exactly the reason, why we love il bel paese...). I remember visiting the website in 2018 and it looked like it was not visually updated since the mid 00s….. It was also difficult to follow the election results in the website (and even worse in LaRepublica) because the websites are extremely inconvenient. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 28, 2022 10:28:26 GMT
Italy desperately needs to digitize. That's not the problem - it's their inClination to aesthetically very pleasant, but shrill and fleshy makeUps with lots of impractical partyLogos aso. (i.e. exactly the reason, why we love il bel paese...). Japan says: Hold my saki. |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2022 11:34:12 GMT
Italians abroad
Camera dei deputati
Leading list by European countries
Brothers of Italy-Lega-Forza Italia run a joint list.
PD, Green/Left and +Europe run with separate lists.
Albania: Centre-Right
Andorra: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Austria: PD
Belgio: PD
Belarus: Centre-Right
Bosnia: Centre-Right
Bulgaria: Centre-Right
Cyprus: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Croatia: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe sum is basically in a tie with centre-right joint list)
Czech Republic: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Denmark: PD
Estonia: PD
Finland: PD
France: PD
Germany: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Greece: PD
Hungary: Centre-Right
Iceland: Green/Left
Ireland: PD
Kosovo: no breakdown of results as less than 20 people voted
Latvia: Centre-Right
Liechtenstein: Centre-Right
Lithuania: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Luxembourg: PD
Malta: Centre-Right
Moldova: Centre-Right
Monaco: Centre-Right
Montenegro: Centre-Right
Netherlands: PD
North Macedonia: Centre-Right
Norway: PD
Poland: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Portugal: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Romania: Centre-Right
Russia: Centre-Right
San Marino: Centre-Right
Serbia: Centre-Right
Slovakia: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be marginally ahead)
Slovenia: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Spain: PD
Sweden: PD
Switzerland: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead)
Turkey: PD
Ukraine: no breakdown of results as less than 20 people voted*
United Kingdom: PD
Vatican: no breakdown of results as less than 20 people voted
* postal votes were not allowed in Ukraine.
Same for
Afghanistan
Bhutan
Burkina Faso
Ciad
Ivory Coast
Cuba
Eritrea
Indonesia
Iraq
Liberia
Libia
Niger
Central-African Republic
North Korea
Sierra Leone
Syria
South Sudan
Timor East
Yemen
Zimbabwe
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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 11:48:34 GMT
Italians abroad Camera dei deputati Leading list by European countries Brothers of Italy-Lega-Forza Italia run a joint list. PD, Green/Left and +Europe run with separate lists. Albania: Centre-Right Andorra: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Austria: PD Belgio: PD Belarus: Centre-Right Bosnia: Centre-Right Bulgaria: Centre-Right Cyprus: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Croatia: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe sum is basically in a tie with centre-right joint list) Czech Republic: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Denmark: PD Estonia: PD Finland: PD France: PD Germany: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Greece: PD Hungary: Centre-Right Iceland: Green/Left Ireland: PD Kosovo: no breakdown of results as less than 20 people voted Latvia: Centre-Right Liechtenstein: Centre-Right Lithuania: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Luxembourg: PD Malta: Centre-Right Moldova: Centre-Right Monaco: Centre-Right Montenegro: Centre-Right Netherlands: PD North Macedonia: Centre-Right Norway: PD Poland: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Portugal: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Romania: Centre-Right Russia: Centre-Right San Marino: Centre-Right Serbia: Centre-Right Slovakia: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be marginally ahead) Slovenia: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Spain: PD Sweden: PD Switzerland: Centre-Right (PD+Green/Left++Europe would be ahead) Turkey: PD Ukraine: no breakdown of results as less than 20 people voted* United Kingdom: PD Vatican: no breakdown of results as less than 20 people voted * postal votes were not allowed in Ukraine. Same for Afghanistan Bhutan Burkina Faso Ciad Ivory Coast Cuba Eritrea Indonesia Iraq Liberia Libia Niger Central-African Republic North Korea Sierra Leone Syria South Sudan Timor East Yemen Zimbabwe Did Calenda get more then 17.5% in any European country? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 28, 2022 11:51:13 GMT
Why do we always get all the fucking leftie ones
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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 11:58:38 GMT
Why do we always get all the fucking leftie ones Probably because of the language (internationalists) |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2022 12:04:22 GMT
Italians abroad Camera dei deputati Leading list by European countries Brothers of Italy-Lega-Forza Italia run a joint list. PD, Green/Left and +Europe run with separate lists. Zimbabwe Did Calenda get more then 17.5% in any European country? After a rapid re-check, I found a couple of 15% (Monaco and Luxembourg) but not a 17+% result. |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2022 12:05:55 GMT
345,779 Italians in UK.
86,299 bothered voting
2,984 Italians in Russia. 638 voted
204 in Belarus with a 76 people turnout
6.153 in China. 2.265 voting
2 electors in North Korea. None of them voted
345 in Iran. 99 voted
What is called "autonomous circumsciption" is Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza territories. 2,570 people. 434 voting. 47% for Movement 5 Stars followed by 23% for Calenda.
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Post by pl on Sept 28, 2022 12:10:28 GMT
345,779 Italians in UK. 86,299 bothered voting I imagine the electoral register not being up to date is a major issue. In two separate London house shares, postal ballot packs for previous Italian residents were delivered. |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2022 12:31:22 GMT
After a rapid re-check, I found a couple of 15% (Monaco and Luxembourg) but not a 17+% result. So Israel had the highest Calenda vote share I suppose. In Asia-Africa-Oceeania constituency, I see 27.87% in Oman 24.7% in United Arab Emirates 24.51% in Singapore 23.75%in Circoscrizione Autonoma (Jerusalem and the West Bank) 21.2% in South Korea 20.22% in Madagascar 19.4% in Cambodia 19.4% in China 17.9% in Angola 17.79% in Israel 17.65 in Benin 17.46% in Ghana May have missed some |
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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 12:35:26 GMT
So Israel had the highest Calenda vote share I suppose. In Asia-Africa-Oceeania constituency, I see 27.87% in Oman 24.7% in United Arab Emirates 24.51% in Singapore 23.75%in Circoscrizione Autonoma (Jerusalem and the West Bank) 21.2% in South Korea 20.22% in Madagascar 19.4% in Cambodia 19.4% in China 17.9% in Angola 17.79% in Israel 17.65 in Benin 17.46% in Ghana May have missed some I wonder why Calenda/Renzi got such a high share in Asia compared to Europe (I suspect it may have something to do with the centrist/technocratic nature/vibe of the alliance). |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2022 12:53:23 GMT
In Asia-Africa-Oceeania constituency, I see 27.87% in Oman 24.7% in United Arab Emirates 24.51% in Singapore 23.75%in Circoscrizione Autonoma (Jerusalem and the West Bank) 21.2% in South Korea 20.22% in Madagascar 19.4% in Cambodia 19.4% in China 17.9% in Angola 17.79% in Israel 17.65 in Benin 17.46% in Ghana May have missed some I wonder why Calenda/Renzi got such a high share in Asia compared to Europe (I suspect it may have something to do with the centrist/technocratic nature/vibe of the alliance). As the numbers of Italians there is low, there may have a different socio-demographic make-up. I also see +Europa didn't run a list in Asia. I wonder if some of their potential voters (not in terms of wanting more EU but as socially liberal centrists) went Calenda rather than PD. |
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Post by rcronald on Sept 28, 2022 13:02:30 GMT
I wonder why Calenda/Renzi got such a high share in Asia compared to Europe (I suspect it may have something to do with the centrist/technocratic nature/vibe of the alliance). As the numbers of Italians there is low, there may have a different socio-demographic make-up. I also see +Europa didn't run a list in Asia. I wonder if some of their potential voters (not in terms of wanting more EU but as socially liberal centrists) went Calenda rather than PD. In places like the Gulf countries/Singapore/Angola, a lot of the voters are high income classical liberals, turned off by CSXs economic policies and CDX’s social/nationalistic policies. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 14:25:10 GMT
345,779 Italians in UK. 86,299 bothered voting 2,984 Italians in Russia. 638 voted 204 in Belarus with a 76 people turnout 6.153 in China. 2.265 voting 2 electors in North Korea. None of them voted345 in Iran. 99 voted What is called "autonomous circumsciption" is Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza territories. 2,570 people. 434 voting. 47% for Movement 5 Stars followed by 23% for Calenda. Diplomats? How many are there in France, Germany and Spain? |
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2022 16:35:50 GMT
Back from the electoral death. In a news surprising few people, it turns out that Interior Ministry allocation of seats from national to multi-member constituencies was, well, not totally correct. Other seats were wrongly allocated. I see one Green/Left seat has gone from Piemonte 2 to Campania 1. 345,779 Italians in UK. 86,299 bothered voting 2,984 Italians in Russia. 638 voted 204 in Belarus with a 76 people turnout 6.153 in China. 2.265 voting 2 electors in North Korea. None of them voted345 in Iran. 99 voted What is called "autonomous circumsciption" is Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza territories. 2,570 people. 434 voting. 47% for Movement 5 Stars followed by 23% for Calenda. Diplomats? How many are there in France, Germany and Spain? Italy don't have an embassy in North Korea. given pl's tales of the accuracy of electoral register, we may need to check if the 2 electors in North Korea are still alive. France: 361,826 Germany: 672,450 Spain: 177,715 Switzerland: 498,712 Belgium: 241,812 |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 28, 2022 19:39:23 GMT
Salvini. Da ‘Roma Ladrona’ a troia della romana.
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