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Post by finsobruce on May 22, 2022 10:15:54 GMT
Now that is taking re-wilding too far. |
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Post by The Bishop on May 22, 2022 10:32:44 GMT
Looking likely that the ALP will end up with a tiny overall majority, but that will be safer than it looks given the opposition is more divided than has been customary.
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Post by mattbewilson on May 22, 2022 10:46:30 GMT
Looking likely that the ALP will end up with a tiny overall majority, but that will be safer than it looks given the opposition is more divided than has been customary. Guardian says Labor short by 3? |
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Post by matureleft on May 22, 2022 10:47:11 GMT
Australia has some history of active involvement in politics by sporting figures. However this election (for a rugby union fan) produces a real star. David Pocock, one of the great modern flankers, looks to have been elected as a senator in the ACT as an Independent on an environmental, anti-corruption ticket.
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Post by The Bishop on May 22, 2022 10:48:20 GMT
Isn't that currently called seats?
(there are I think about 7 or 8 still in genuine doubt, and Labor appear favoured in at least half of them)
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Post by neilm on May 22, 2022 11:04:44 GMT
Not sure if this has been posted.
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finsobruce
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Post by finsobruce on May 22, 2022 11:16:44 GMT
Not sure if this has been posted. Why Cuba? |
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Post by stb12 on May 22, 2022 11:34:36 GMT
Could a change of leader a decent time before the election have saved the Coalition like it seemed to the last couple of times?
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finsobruce
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Post by finsobruce on May 22, 2022 11:51:10 GMT
Could a change of leader a decent time before the election have saved the Coalition like it seemed to the last couple of times? Depends on who it would have been, but I think that judging by the results (and especially the losses to 'teal' independents) the government's time was up. |
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Post by greenhert on May 22, 2022 11:52:33 GMT
Could a change of leader a decent time before the election have saved the Coalition like it seemed to the last couple of times? Depends on who it would have been, but I think that judging by the results (and especially the losses to 'teal' independents) the government's time was up. Just as it will be for ours come 2024, despite two changes of PM (see also the Conservative governments of 1951-64). |
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Post by finsobruce on May 22, 2022 11:59:31 GMT
Depends on who it would have been, but I think that judging by the results (and especially the losses to 'teal' independents) the government's time was up. Just as it will be for ours come 2024, despite two changes of PM (see also the Conservative governments of 1951-64). We can but hope gh, we can but hope. |
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Post by IceAgeComing on May 22, 2022 12:00:03 GMT
There was always going to be a lot liberal voters staying at home with the illiberal treatment of covid. Even looking past the compulsory voting point and also the fact that a majority of votes cast in this election were do so before polling day so people clearly turned out: the results don’t indicate this at all. None of the anti-lockdown parties did much of anything, and in the state with the most aggressively anti-COVID state government you had a 10% swing towards the ALP. Mandatory preferences effectively forces everyone into either preferencing the ALP or the Coalition so in order for your analysis to be true without the fall in turnout (or a lot of invalid votes, which is unlikely and I think that would have been noticed on election night) those anti-lockdown people on the right consciously elected an ALP government who were the most vocal advocates of that policy and that seems wrong. I understand that it’s sometimes good to go into an election with a preconcived narrative but at least make sure that it makes sense! |
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Post by boogieeck on May 22, 2022 13:19:42 GMT
On a continent with staggering reserves of coal, to declare that you will be a green government is effectively announcing a plan for poverty.
They will last one term and be booted out. But it may be long enough to become a republic.
Or Western Australia may secede
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Post by carlton43 on May 22, 2022 13:26:21 GMT
On a continent with staggering reserves of coal, to declare that you will be a green government is effectively announcing a plan for poverty. They will last one term and be booted out. But it may be long enough to become a republic. Or Western Australia may secede GOOD! |
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Post by cogload on May 22, 2022 13:27:52 GMT
There was always going to be a lot liberal voters staying at home with the illiberal treatment of covid. How does that square with the thrashing the LNP received in WA? |
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finsobruce
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Post by finsobruce on May 22, 2022 13:45:02 GMT
On a continent with staggering reserves of coal, to declare that you will be a green government is effectively announcing a plan for poverty. They will last one term and be booted out. But it may be long enough to become a republic. Or Western Australia may secede A lot will depend on whether Labor has to rely on the Greens and teal Independents.
Labor's manifesto had a commitment to coal and Albanese refused to commit to phasing it out or even to blocking the opening of new mines.
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Post by boogieeck on May 22, 2022 13:46:20 GMT
Very Green. Not.
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Post by aargauer on May 22, 2022 13:47:02 GMT
There was always going to be a lot liberal voters staying at home with the illiberal treatment of covid. How does that square with the thrashing the LNP received in WA? I guess they liked being denied basic rights even after vaccination. Which is a seriously depressing thought. Morrison wasn't drinking the covid kool-aid enough! I think I've been influenced by the unrepresentative section of (expat) Australians I know who are horrified by their actions. |
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Post by finsobruce on May 22, 2022 13:47:50 GMT
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 22, 2022 15:53:53 GMT
On a continent with staggering reserves of coal, to declare that you will be a green government is effectively announcing a plan for poverty. They will last one term and be booted out. But it may be long enough to become a republic. Or Western Australia may secede A lot will depend on whether Labor has to rely on the Greens and teal Independents.
Labor's manifesto had a commitment to coal and Albanese refused to commit to phasing it out or even to blocking the opening of new mines.
On a continent with staggering reserves of sun, wind, and coasts (for tide), to declare that you will be a green government is effectively announcing a plan for rebooting and supercharging the economy. |
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