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Post by jamesdoyle on Feb 4, 2022 18:33:44 GMT
With the addition of Tamworth, GWBWI:
LDm +175
Grn -55
Con -57
Lab -91
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 4, 2022 18:52:10 GMT
I thought the Lib Dems might get a bit closer than that, although this ward will have a large number of residents who will never vote anything else except Conservative. Yup, Chipping Campden and Blockley, for instance, are deepest blue territory, so to get as close as that is encouraging. We were starting from a fair way back in 2019, and I doubt that much of the absent UKIP vote would ordinarily have broken for us. Slightly disappointing not to get this one over the line, but it wouldn't remotely be a target ward in normal circumstances. As recently as 2019, which was an excellent year for us when we carried the District Council, in this ward we were third behind UKIP and there was no Green or Labour vote to squeeze. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 4, 2022 19:30:07 GMT
The Leicester result is shocking. Basically confirms the swing in the other by election in Hamilton and Humberstone. Difference is Labour are doing better in the polls now. Perhaps Labour would have lost otherwise. Evington is very different though and should be more demographically favourable to Labour.
To be fair it has been almost 3 years since these seats were contested. A lot has changed. It's worth mentioning that to put delicately the councillors who have passed weren't very good councillors. We used to recieve complaints about him from voters
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Post by ClevelandYorks on Feb 4, 2022 20:47:11 GMT
The Leicester result is shocking. Basically confirms the swing in the other by election in Hamilton and Humberstone. Difference is Labour are doing better in the polls now. Perhaps Labour would have lost otherwise. Evington is very different though and should be more demographically favourable to Labour. To be fair it has been almost 3 years since these seats were contested. A lot has changed. It's worth mentioning that to put delicately the councillors who have passed weren't very good councillors. We used to recieve complaints about him from voters They haven’t “passed”. They have died. |
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Post by WJ on Feb 4, 2022 20:51:52 GMT
I’m not sure; there are always a few areas that use “Local Conservative” just as you still get the occasional “Liberal Democrat Focus Team” candidate. In the coalition days especially, you sometimes used to get just "Focus Team". Think that particular loophole may have been shut now but not sure. There was at least one "Focus Team" in the Shropshire locals last year. Tern ward I think. |
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Post by batman on Feb 4, 2022 21:13:48 GMT
I think the Leicester result is probably the most interesting. 3 by-elections there in the past year, all in Leicester East, and all with significant Lab-Tory swings (including one Tory gain). Claudia Webbe is undoubtedly a factor to some extent, but bringing back Washing Machine Keith was supposed to lessen that effect. I find it very hard to believe it’s entirely a result of Webbe, so what else is going on here? I'd suspect, as perhaps with Manchester too, a reaction to the utterly monolithic Labour majority on the council, and a desire to see more of an opposition |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 4, 2022 21:56:09 GMT
The Leicester result is shocking. Basically confirms the swing in the other by election in Hamilton and Humberstone. Difference is Labour are doing better in the polls now. Perhaps Labour would have lost otherwise. Evington is very different though and should be more demographically favourable to Labour. To be fair it has been almost 3 years since these seats were contested. A lot has changed. It's worth mentioning that to put delicately the councillors who have passed weren't very good councillors. We used to recieve complaints about him from voters They haven’t “passed”. They have died. Or "passed on" as we say in England at least. |
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 4, 2022 22:02:39 GMT
They haven’t “passed”. They have died. Or "passed on" as we say in England at least. It always used to be "passed away" in Yorkshire. I thought that was everywhere... "Passed" is North American isn't it? |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 4, 2022 22:19:40 GMT
Or "passed on" as we say in England at least. It always used to be "passed away" in Yorkshire. I thought that was everywhere... "Passed" is North American isn't it? Yes, we found this to be the usage in Canada at least. "Passed on" or "passed away", I'm not fussed, "passed" alone just suggests an exam result. |
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Post by froome on Feb 4, 2022 22:21:55 GMT
It always used to be "passed away" in Yorkshire. I thought that was everywhere... "Passed" is North American isn't it? Yes, we found this to be the usage in Canada at least. "Passed on" or "passed away", I'm not fussed, "passed" alone just suggests an exam result. It also makes it sound like they are 'past', which is a bit insensitive to say the least. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 4, 2022 22:34:55 GMT
Yes, we found this to be the usage in Canada at least. "Passed on" or "passed away", I'm not fussed, "passed" alone just suggests an exam result. It also makes it sound like they are 'past', which is a bit insensitive to say the least. it wasn't meant like that. I was trying not to say died as that felt blunt and I was already insulting them |
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 4, 2022 22:59:43 GMT
It always used to be "passed away" in Yorkshire. I thought that was everywhere... "Passed" is North American isn't it? Yes, we found this to be the usage in Canada at least. "Passed on" or "passed away", I'm not fussed, "passed" alone just suggests an exam result. The Internet says "passed on" is used more in religious circles, referencing the afterlife. Apparently "passed away" has been conventional in the USA since the 70s, but those young lazy whippersnappers shorten it to "passed" |
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Post by Zardoz on Feb 5, 2022 3:56:06 GMT
Yes, we found this to be the usage in Canada at least. "Passed on" or "passed away", I'm not fussed, "passed" alone just suggests an exam result. The Internet says "passed on" is used more in religious circles, referencing the afterlife. Apparently "passed away" has been conventional in the USA since the 70s, but those young lazy whippersnappers shorten it to "passed" 'Snuffed it' or 'away up the chimney' here in Yorkshire. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Feb 5, 2022 7:42:56 GMT
Yes, we found this to be the usage in Canada at least. "Passed on" or "passed away", I'm not fussed, "passed" alone just suggests an exam result. It also makes it sound like they are 'past', which is a bit insensitive to say the least. but accurate. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 5, 2022 7:47:01 GMT
The Internet says "passed on" is used more in religious circles, referencing the afterlife. Apparently "passed away" has been conventional in the USA since the 70s, but those young lazy whippersnappers shorten it to "passed" 'Snuffed it' or 'away up the chimney' here in Yorkshire. Croaked, kicked the bucket ... |
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Post by Crimson King on Feb 5, 2022 7:53:13 GMT
'Snuffed it' or 'away up the chimney' here in Yorkshire. Croaked, kicked the bucket ... pining for the fjords |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2022 7:59:27 GMT
It also makes it sound like they are 'past', which is a bit insensitive to say the least. but accurate. bur passed, by contrast, suggests you have won something, which may also be correct, if only a bit of peace. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 5, 2022 12:02:26 GMT
It also makes it sound like they are 'past', which is a bit insensitive to say the least. but accurate. I connect all such euphemisms with Victorian super-sensitivity over legs, ankles, bodily functions, sexual acts, and death. Thus the failure to use and to value the graphic Saxon words shit and fuck which are compact and useful but now regarded as off limits and coarse. With death the words to use are dying, dead and deceased. All else is foolish nonsense. How on earth can we persist with such phrases as :- use the bathroom powder her nose wash my hands passed on passed over sleeping with making love dating It is all so prudish, childish and just damned silly. But there will be no shifting any of it. |
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 5, 2022 12:22:28 GMT
I connect all such euphemisms with Victorian super-sensitivity over legs, ankles, bodily functions, sexual acts, and death. Thus the failure to use and to value the graphic Saxon words shit and fuck which are compact and useful but now regarded as off limits and coarse. With death the words to use are dying, dead and deceased. All else is foolish nonsense. How on earth can we persist with such phrases as :- use the bathroom powder her nose wash my hands passed on passed over sleeping with making love dating It is all so prudish, childish and just damned silly. But there will be no shifting any of it. Sometimes the more empathetic bird catches the worm Carlton. "making love" is a more accurate description of what I try to do than "fucking". Sleeping with also means more.. These days "wash my hands" means exactly that. Otherwise I agree There have always been euphemisms though. Old folk songs are full of them; "cuckoo's nest", "thyme", "blacksmith with his hammer in his hand looked quite clever" |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 5, 2022 14:24:42 GMT
The Internet says "passed on" is used more in religious circles, referencing the afterlife. Apparently "passed away" has been conventional in the USA since the 70s, but those young lazy whippersnappers shorten it to "passed" 'Snuffed it' or 'away up the chimney' here in Yorkshire. I sometimes use the word “barked”. The etymology is that “bark” is derived from the acronym of “Become A Rotting Corpse” but unfortunately the spelling has to be changed from “barc” to “bark” in order to preserve the hard plosive consonant sound. |
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