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Post by mrsir on Jan 24, 2022 11:25:42 GMT
Labour seem to not have many ‘BAME’ male MPs other than those of Pakistani origin so I suspect they’ll try to rectify that here. Is David Lammy the only black male Labour MP? They have quite a few Black female MPs. Clive Lewis is mixed race but Lammy being the only black male London MP is a bit of a surprise. |
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Post by elinorhelyn on Jan 24, 2022 11:39:00 GMT
The unspoken consequence of all-women shortlists is the people who lost out the most are BAME males
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 24, 2022 11:54:45 GMT
Interesting that *both* are Black in a seat that is one of the whiter parts of Birmingham. 10% black and 6% mixed at the last census. Not exactly one of the whitest seats, even by Birmingham standards.
| Constituency | % white | % black | % south asian | % other & mixed | | Sutton | 89% | 2% | 5% | 4% | | Northfield | 86% | 4% | 2% | 8% | | Selly Oak | 78% | 4% | 9% | 9% | | Erdington | 73% | 10% | 8% | 9% | | Edgbaston | 69% | 8% | 11% | 12% | | Yardley | 66% | 5% | 21% | 8% | | Perry Barr | 40% | 15% | 34% | 11% | | Hall Green | 36% | 6% | 45% | 14% | | Hodge Hill | 36% | 8% | 44% | 11% | | Ladywood | 27% | 23% | 33% | 17% |
As you can see Erdington has the third highest black population, and is one of only two seats where the black population exceeds the south asian population. It is the most obvious seat in which to run a black candidate. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 24, 2022 12:15:53 GMT
10% black and 6% mixed at the last census. Not exactly one of the whitest seats, even by Birmingham standards.
| Constituency | % white | % black | % south asian | % other & mixed | | Sutton | 89% | 2% | 5% | 4% | | Northfield | 86% | 4% | 2% | 8% | | Selly Oak | 78% | 4% | 9% | 9% | | Erdington | 73% | 10% | 8% | 9% | | Edgbaston | 69% | 8% | 11% | 12% | | Yardley | 66% | 5% | 21% | 8% | | Perry Barr | 40% | 15% | 34% | 11% | | Hall Green | 36% | 6% | 45% | 14% | | Hodge Hill | 36% | 8% | 44% | 11% | | Ladywood | 27% | 23% | 33% | 17% |
As you can see Erdington has the third highest black population, and is one of only two seats where the black population exceeds the south asian population. It is the most obvious seat in which to run a black candidate. Hmm, interesting conclusion, considering that Ladywood is 23% Black. And I'd like more detail of the "other and mixed" category too. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 24, 2022 13:12:35 GMT
Interesting that *both* are Black in a seat that is one of the whiter parts of Birmingham. 10% black and 6% mixed at the last census. Not exactly one of the whitest seats, even by Birmingham standards. 85% white is more or less exactly bang on for the UK as a whole. |
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Post by lackeroftalent on Jan 24, 2022 13:18:47 GMT
10% black and 6% mixed at the last census. Not exactly one of the whitest seats, even by Birmingham standards. 85% white is more or less exactly bang on for the UK as a whole. Think you might want to re-read the info posted above. Erdington's white population is 73%. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 24, 2022 13:26:40 GMT
85% white is more or less exactly bang on for the UK as a whole. Think you might want to re-read the info posted above. Erdington's white population is 73%. And that was 10 years ago. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 24, 2022 13:38:49 GMT
85% white is more or less exactly bang on for the UK as a whole. Think you might want to re-read the info posted above. Erdington's white population is 73%. Yep, two consituencies are above average, the eight others are below average. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 24, 2022 13:40:00 GMT
Think you might want to re-read the info posted above. Erdington's white population is 73%. And that was 10 years ago. On which theme, does anybody know when the initial stats of last year's census will be made available? |
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 24, 2022 15:01:34 GMT
And that was 10 years ago. On which theme, does anybody know when the initial stats of last year's census will be made available? Last time I looked the ONS were promising simple counts in the spring, and the first tables in the autumn. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 24, 2022 16:16:00 GMT
I know of at least three others. Without knowing anything about it, I would have thought that others who would have been interested might include Bridget Jones, Majid Mahmood, Sharon Thompson, John Cotton and Ansar Ali Khan. Whether all or any of them did not put their names forward to support someone else I have no idea. Given the new seat if the boundary changes go through loses Kingstanding and gains Aston with an implied 2019 majority of 11,000 (even on a very low turnout), it is an attractive proposition. You could always check her diary to find out.  |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 24, 2022 16:16:26 GMT
Ashley Bertie has also been shortlisted for Labour: Is he related to Burlington? Take a Bow. |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 24, 2022 17:11:21 GMT
Is he related to Burlington? Take a Bow. Funnily enough, I was reading about Ella Shields and Vesta Tilley yesterday. |
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Post by samdwebber on Jan 25, 2022 1:03:50 GMT
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Post by neilm on Jan 25, 2022 1:10:02 GMT
Funnily enough, I was reading about Ella Shields and Vesta Tilley yesterday. Oddly enough, so was I. A retired friend is doing a masters and has opted to do his dissertation on music hall: he mentioned Vesta Tilley. I admit I'd only heard of her in passing before. |
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Post by elinorhelyn on Jan 25, 2022 18:14:39 GMT
anything under a Labour 5 figure majority would be a disappointment right?
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Post by greenhert on Jan 25, 2022 18:18:11 GMT
anything under a Labour 5 figure majority would be a disappointment right? Turnout might not be high enough for a 5 figure majority to be feasible. Birmingham Erdington's turnout is consistently very poor and I suspect turnout in this by-election will not exceed 30%. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 25, 2022 18:19:40 GMT
anything under a Labour 5 figure majority would be a disappointment right? Erdington isn't a very good turnout seat at the best of times, given its a by-election it could well be under 30%. I think it would be better to look at the percentage majority rather than the numeric one. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 25, 2022 20:07:01 GMT
With the exception of 2017 (57.2%) turnout hasn’t been above 53.5% since 1997.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 26, 2022 22:16:16 GMT
Paulette Hamilton selected.
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