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Post by ClevelandYorks on Jan 7, 2022 19:23:01 GMT
When’s the last time the Lib Dems had a councillor in this seat? (If ever)
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Post by iain on Jan 7, 2022 19:28:53 GMT
When’s the last time the Lib Dems had a councillor in this seat? (If ever) We won Tyburn in 2008 I think. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 7, 2022 19:33:52 GMT
When’s the last time the Lib Dems had a councillor in this seat? (If ever) We won Tyburn in 2008 I think. Well, we held Tyburn with a defector who I was on Housing Committee with. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jan 7, 2022 20:06:14 GMT
All-women shortlist?…
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Post by batman on Jan 7, 2022 20:20:23 GMT
They never have, like in most of Birmingham. Wrong as usual. We've come second in Hodge Hill, Ladywood, Yardley, Sutton Coldfield, Perry Barr over the years. Thats half of Birmingham. and not far behind in Hall Green once, too. And of course the Liberals won Ladywood although it was a tiny seat in those days |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 7, 2022 20:32:27 GMT
Do you really want to remind everyone about the lie told about the 2010 selection? |
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Post by woollyliberal on Jan 7, 2022 21:21:46 GMT
Do you really want to remind everyone about the lie told about the 2010 selection? I'd forgotten about that  I recall that Sion Simon was persuaded to vacate the seat in exchange for a run at the Mayoralty, which then didn't happen for another 7 years. It surely isn't true that Mr Dromey won an all women shortlist? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 7, 2022 21:42:55 GMT
That explanation for why Sion Simon stood down was notably inventive as far as explanations go.
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Post by woollyliberal on Jan 7, 2022 21:55:58 GMT
That explanation for why Sion Simon stood down was notably inventive as far as explanations go. Possibly, though not by me. A 10+ year old memory of an event I no longer recall. I still smile whenever I hear mention of the AWS though. |
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Post by elinorhelyn on Jan 7, 2022 22:22:52 GMT
Demographically very similar seat to Batley and Spen.
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Post by jakegb on Jan 7, 2022 22:29:28 GMT
Demographically very similar seat to Batley and Spen. |
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Post by jakegb on Jan 7, 2022 22:31:36 GMT
Certainly some similarities but B and S has a far higher Muslim population as well as a significant rural element.
I think it is therefore less likely for George Galloway to pop up.. but never say never.
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Post by woollyliberal on Jan 8, 2022 8:29:28 GMT
Certainly some similarities but B and S has a far higher Muslim population as well as a significant rural element. I think it is therefore less likely for George Galloway to pop up.. but never say never. George Galloway's Workers Party is planning to stand in a nearby ward in May's elections. It wouldn't surprise me if they make an appearance here. |
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 8, 2022 10:45:45 GMT
Interestingly, this constituency had the same Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem candidates in each of the past four elections. Has anywhere else in the country been that consistent with main party candidate selections?
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Post by cogload on Jan 8, 2022 10:52:12 GMT
If the Green Party can't win here you must ask where they can win. A must win for the Green team.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 8, 2022 11:36:17 GMT
Couple of other observations:
1) One of three Birmingham constituencies in which every ward voted Leave in 2016
2) 98th highest Leave vote by constituency in 2016 but only 365th highest BXP vote in 2019 Euro election (Hanretty estimates)
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Post by Wisconsin on Jan 8, 2022 11:44:05 GMT
I thought Brexit had got done already?
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 8, 2022 11:49:11 GMT
I thought Brexit had got done already? No. Boosters are required, even if you've had two Brexits already. |
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Post by elinorhelyn on Jan 8, 2022 11:52:14 GMT
Couple of other observations: 1) One of three Birmingham constituencies in which every ward voted Leave in 2016 2) 98th highest Leave vote by constituency in 2016 but only 365th highest BXP vote in 2019 Euro election (Hanretty estimates) Judging by that, there is a sigificant BAME leave vote in this consituency that is still loyal to Labour to keep it in their hands but enough of a WWC leave vote to keep the seat semi-marginal. |
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Post by johnhemming on Jan 8, 2022 12:42:00 GMT
Well, we held Tyburn with a defector who I was on Housing Committee with. As well as Ann Holtom holding Tyburn, back in 1982 we won two seats in the All Ups in Kingsbury (Castle Vale), our third candidate was the late Ray Hassall who was later Councillor for Perry Barr and Lord Mayor. |
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I recall that Sion Simon was persuaded to vacate the seat in exchange for a run at the Mayoralty, which then didn't happen for another 7 years. It surely isn't true that Mr Dromey won an all women shortlist?
