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Post by aargauer on Nov 18, 2024 19:12:17 GMT
Guido Fawkes has a number of the allegations Oh so it's complete rubbish then. I've never believed a word from him or that other one. Well that's a balanced take having evaluated the evidence from all angles.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 18, 2024 19:16:21 GMT
Oh so it's complete rubbish then. I've never believed a word from him or that other one. Well that's a balanced take having evaluated the evidence from all angles. Guido Fawkes or Skwawkbox - balanced evaluation, far right or far left.
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Post by aargauer on Nov 18, 2024 19:18:28 GMT
Well that's a balanced take having evaluated the evidence from all angles. Guido Fawkes or Skwawkbox - balanced evaluation, far right or far left. Guido would pounce it was real and pounce if there wasn't much in it. Being on his site therefore doesn't mean an awful lot.
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Post by observer on Nov 18, 2024 19:19:05 GMT
Guido Fawkes has a number of the allegations Oh so it's complete rubbish then. I've never believed a word from him or that other one. I'd give it a read if I was you. If there wasn't evidence to substantiate the allegations he wouldn't have published it...and he has screengrabs to show how the CV changed. There are also reports of it in dozens of other media outlets so...check it out
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Post by john07 on Nov 18, 2024 19:38:42 GMT
Oh so it's complete rubbish then. I've never believed a word from him or that other one. Well that's a balanced take having evaluated the evidence from all angles. Still most likely true though!
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 18, 2024 20:07:51 GMT
Not looked into the Reeves CV issue much? Is it a simple as her "inflating her job title" which is what I heard a few days back?
PS: DOes anyone recall a certain Suella Braverman had a bit of publicity over her claims to have written some major legal document/legislation (I forget the details) but when the facts came out, it seems that her role was pretty much limited to "photocopying"!! I remember all the calls for her to resign (about that issue, not the other more serious stuff she spouted) at the time.....errr
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Post by johnloony on Nov 18, 2024 20:10:40 GMT
Oh so it's complete rubbish then. I've never believed a word from him or that other one. I'd give it a read if I was you. If there wasn't evidence to substantiate the allegations he wouldn't have published it...and he has screengrabs to show how the CV changed. There are also reports of it in dozens of other media outlets so...check it out I don’t understand what the fuss is about. There was a slight change of vague wording on Linkedln (not even on a CV) which would have no material difference to the selection of Rachel Reeves as candidate, election as MP, or appointment as Chancellor. It is a million miles away from “gaining a pecuniary advantage by deception”.
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Post by observer on Nov 18, 2024 20:19:39 GMT
I'd give it a read if I was you. If there wasn't evidence to substantiate the allegations he wouldn't have published it...and he has screengrabs to show how the CV changed. There are also reports of it in dozens of other media outlets so...check it out I don’t understand what the fuss is about. There was a slight change of vague wording on Linkedln (not even on a CV) which would have no material difference to the selection of Rachel Reeves as candidate, election as MP, or appointment as Chancellor. It is a million miles away from “gaining a pecuniary advantage by deception”. Apparently when campaigning in 2009 in Leeds she had a website...not sure if it was aimed at party selectors or voters...that made great play of her 'economist' status with one of the banks. A screenshot exists . She's been at it for years. I think lying matters
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Post by johnloony on Nov 18, 2024 20:23:16 GMT
Who will sack Michael Crick though? Me, when I become Dictator of the World. When I asked him to look at my website (27th January 2011), he had the damned impertinence to say that he was too busy and didn’t have the time.
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 18, 2024 20:40:45 GMT
I don’t understand what the fuss is about. There was a slight change of vague wording on Linkedln (not even on a CV) which would have no material difference to the selection of Rachel Reeves as candidate, election as MP, or appointment as Chancellor. It is a million miles away from “gaining a pecuniary advantage by deception”. Apparently when campaigning in 2009 in Leeds she had a website...not sure if it was aimed at party selectors or voters...that made great play of her 'economist' status with one of the banks. A screenshot exists . She's been at it for years. I think lying mattersI actually agree. It's beyond doubt that the 2 leaders of modern UK-US political history shown to have been the biggest serial liars were Johnson and Trump.
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Post by observer on Nov 18, 2024 20:57:30 GMT
Apparently when campaigning in 2009 in Leeds she had a website...not sure if it was aimed at party selectors or voters...that made great play of her 'economist' status with one of the banks. A screenshot exists . She's been at it for years. I think lying mattersI actually agree. It's beyond doubt that the 2 leaders of modern UK-US political history shown to have been the biggest serial liars were Johnson and Trump. So when some other liar comes along - oh, I don't know, let's call her Mrs Reeves - you can condemn her too. It could lead to some much needed honesty in politics! It might catch on
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Post by batman on Nov 18, 2024 21:21:54 GMT
Who will sack Michael Crick though? Me, when I become Dictator of the World. When I asked him to look at my website (27th January 2011), he had the damned impertinence to say that he was too busy and didn’t have the time. well I am increasingly well-disposed to your become such a Dictator now. I think it has much merit
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 18, 2024 21:54:31 GMT
I actually agree. It's beyond doubt that the 2 leaders of modern UK-US political history shown to have been the biggest serial liars were Johnson and Trump. So when some other liar comes along - oh, I don't know, let's call her Mrs Reeves - you can condemn her too. It could lead to some much needed honesty in politics! It might catch on I'm opposed to all lying, being economical with the truth, padding your CV or whatever. I really couldnt give a fig whether Reeves resigned or not. But to compare her to Johnson/Trump is like asking me do I condemn a shoplifter in exactly the same way as I would condemn a mass murderer!?
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Post by observer on Nov 18, 2024 21:59:01 GMT
So when some other liar comes along - oh, I don't know, let's call her Mrs Reeves - you can condemn her too. It could lead to some much needed honesty in politics! It might catch on I'm opposed to all lying, being economical with the truth, padding your CV or whatever. I really couldnt give a fig whether Reeves resigned or not. But to compare her to Johnson/Trump is like asking me do I condemn a shoplifter in exactly the same way as I would condemn a mass murderer!? I can't say that lying surprises me with politicians. But those who live by the sword must die by the sword. Is Mrs Reeves innocent of condemning others?
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Post by hengog on Nov 19, 2024 0:02:31 GMT
To be honest I can’t see enough so far for it to be a resigning matter. But it’s just a little more than a mild exaggeration on LinkedIn. She has referred for years to her career as an economist - mostly in the Bank of England , but also previously. Her exact role at the Bank has been rather vague - it shouldn’t surely be difficult to be precise and eliminate all confusion there. As to that previous job it has seemingly been suggested by a retired senior manager that she not only had a more junior role -and not as an economist, but that her leaving of it was in circumstances not to her credit. I would have expected by now some journalist of substance would have thoroughly sifted these things and produced a proper substantiated story- if indeed there is one worth telling. Maybe there isn’t. But there was also that embarrassing admission of plagiarism. She has a habit of indulging in self praise , and is perhaps tempted to pad out actual achievements with mildly fictitious or at least exaggerated ones - hardly an unusual fault! But not great in a Chancellor of the Exchequer.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 19, 2024 13:33:58 GMT
I'm not entirely up to date with what the Reeves allegations are. Basically she's tried to big herself up on LinkedIn. It's not a resigning offence. It just makes her look like another LinkedIn poseur.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 19, 2024 13:50:05 GMT
And quite frankly Crick calling on her to quit not just as Chancellor but as an MP, simply shows how much of a crank he is these days.
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 19, 2024 15:19:49 GMT
I'm not entirely up to date with what the Reeves allegations are. Basically she's tried to big herself up on LinkedIn. It's not a resigning offence. It just makes her look like another LinkedIn poseur. Isn't that kinda the whole purpose of LinkedIn, or at least common practice by those that use it...
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 19, 2024 15:47:27 GMT
Any organisation who employs anyone based solely on their LinkedIn account deserves everything that they get coming to them
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Post by aargauer on Nov 19, 2024 16:02:53 GMT
Basically she's tried to big herself up on LinkedIn. It's not a resigning offence. It just makes her look like another LinkedIn poseur. Isn't that kinda the whole purpose of LinkedIn, or at least common practice by those that use it... The purpose is to embarrass yourself in-front of your workmates.
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