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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 2, 2023 23:33:30 GMT
Read English at Christ's College. Just as well. Doubt he knew any other language? In a period when the BBC had many pleasant but utterly gormless front men, he seemed prime of that ilk. Now they have sharper, nastier ill-spoken chavs instead, and mainly female. Apart from a short lived chat show in 1999, Whiteley never worked for the BBC. He started at ITN, moved to Anglia, co-presenting with Woodrow Wyatt, before moving to Yorkshire TV, where his first co-host was Austin Mitchell, where he stayed, latterly splitting his time with C4.
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 3, 2023 9:27:09 GMT
Read English at Christ's College. Just as well. Doubt he knew any other language? In a period when the BBC had many pleasant but utterly gormless front men, he seemed prime of that ilk. Now they have sharper, nastier ill-spoken chavs instead, and mainly female. Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words.
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 3, 2023 9:53:02 GMT
Just as well. Doubt he knew any other language? In a period when the BBC had many pleasant but utterly gormless front men, he seemed prime of that ilk. Now they have sharper, nastier ill-spoken chavs instead, and mainly female. Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words. Was that the one where he wasn't told who the guests were going to be and completely failed to recognise Paul Whitehouse?
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Post by richardh on Feb 3, 2023 10:12:03 GMT
In his memoirs (Himoff!) he says there was a perpetual rumour that he was to stand for parliament, perhaps taking over from Sir Marcus Fox in Shipley, Whiteley's home constituency. "There was no truth in this at all but it ran and ran..." he wrote. As a journalist in Leeds I met Richard Whiteley quite often and he was always good company. As the cynics used to say "As a journalist you meet lots of interesting people, and most of them are other journalists."
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 3, 2023 10:20:02 GMT
Just as well. Doubt he knew any other language? In a period when the BBC had many pleasant but utterly gormless front men, he seemed prime of that ilk. Now they have sharper, nastier ill-spoken chavs instead, and mainly female. Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words. I never watched any of his stuff except when staying with my Mother. She was a devotee of both him and the programme. He was I suppose nice enough but just such a, how can one term it? A know-nothing non-entity? I suppose they get positions from fellow non-entities? And the audience of people like my Mother must be large? There was nothing to dislike about him, because frankly there was just nothing at all 'about him'. Perhaps that was just me? I am a fairly harsh critic.
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Post by grahammurray on Feb 3, 2023 10:38:03 GMT
Just as well. Doubt he knew any other language? In a period when the BBC had many pleasant but utterly gormless front men, he seemed prime of that ilk. Now they have sharper, nastier ill-spoken chavs instead, and mainly female. Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words. Please don't bring facts up. Carlton didn't like Whiteley, therefore he worked for the BBC.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 3, 2023 10:49:37 GMT
Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words. I never watched any of his stuff except when staying with my Mother. She was a devotee of both him and the programme. He was I suppose nice enough but just such a, how can one term it? A know-nothing non-entity? I suppose they get positions from fellow non-entities? And the audience of people like my Mother must be large? There was nothing to dislike about him, because frankly there was just nothing at all 'about him'. Perhaps that was just me? I am a fairly harsh critic. I remember visiting my paternal grandparents in Leeds and the only time the TV went on regularly was for Yorkshire’s regional news, he was apparently extremely knowledgeable of all things Yorkshire, and impressed them (and my dad) by using Yorkshire pronunciation. He also seemed to have the ability to switch from the light fluffy local interest interview to creditably interviewing candidates at election time.
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 3, 2023 10:59:43 GMT
Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words. Please don't bring facts up. Carlton didn't like Whiteley, therefore he worked for the BBC. It really doesn't matter does it? He was the sort of affable middle class non-entity that I associate with the BBC more than other stations; and I thought 'Countdown' was probably a BBC programme. It wasn't! He wasn't! Who cares? I certainly don't.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 3, 2023 11:05:15 GMT
Please don't bring facts up. Carlton didn't like Whiteley, therefore he worked for the BBC. It really doesn't matter does it? He was the sort of affable middle class non-entity that I associate with the BBC more than other stations; and I thought 'Countdown' was probably a BBC programme. It wasn't! He wasn't! Who cares? I certainly don't. Any trivia quizzer cares as he’s the answer to the oft-repeated question “who was the first person to be seen on Channel 4?”.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Feb 3, 2023 14:09:26 GMT
ha ha!! I think I recall correctly that the great TV double-act of Richard Whiteley and Carol Vorderman both graduated from Cambridge with third class degrees?! Whiteley went to Cambridge? He always seemed the sort of 'nice but dim' bloke, who squeaked a couple of O Levels in workwork and divinity! I always thought he was smart enough to realise that coming across as a smartarse would not have worked well for the presenter of Countdown.
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 3, 2023 14:14:27 GMT
Apart from a very short lived chat show which no one remembers*, he only ever worked for Independent tv companies, mostly Yorkshire. And he was pretty definitely a Tory iirc.
*Ok, someone on here will remember it.
EDIT: I see Tim has beaten me to it, with almost the same words. Was that the one where he wasn't told who the guests were going to be and completely failed to recognise Paul Whitehouse? That's the one.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 3, 2023 14:24:40 GMT
Whiteley went to Cambridge? He always seemed the sort of 'nice but dim' bloke, who squeaked a couple of O Levels in workwork and divinity! I always thought he was smart enough to realise that coming across as a smartarse would not have worked well for the presenter of Countdown. The husband of my office manager went on Countdown (lost by one point) in about Series 4, and said in the four shows recorded that day Whiteley won every word game but was self admittedly terrible at the numbers rounds and couldn’t play the Conundrum as he had the answer in front of him.
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Post by r34t on Feb 3, 2023 15:29:58 GMT
I always thought he was smart enough to realise that coming across as a smartarse would not have worked well for the presenter of Countdown. The husband of my office manager went on Countdown (lost by one point) in about Series 4, and said in the four shows recorded that day Whiteley won every word game but was self admittedly terrible at the numbers rounds and couldn’t play the Conundrum as he had the answer in front of him. Richard W lived in East Witton in Wensleydale with his partner, & is buried in the village. He used to hold court at the Blue Lion, good entertaining company. Like a lot of people who make a living out of a 'nice but dim' persona he was a great deal more intelligent than his image. Opinion didn't bother him, as a good Yorkshireman he settled for crying all the way to the bank. His untimely death was a real shock.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 3, 2023 16:56:42 GMT
The husband of my office manager went on Countdown (lost by one point) in about Series 4, and said in the four shows recorded that day Whiteley won every word game but was self admittedly terrible at the numbers rounds and couldn’t play the Conundrum as he had the answer in front of him. Richard W lived in East Witton in Wensleydale with his partner, & is buried in the village. He used to hold court at the Blue Lion, good entertaining company. Like a lot of people who make a living out of a 'nice but dim' persona he was a great deal more intelligent than his image. Opinion didn't bother him, as a good Yorkshireman he settled for crying all the way to the bank. His untimely death was a real shock. His partner was, IIRC, actress Kathryn Apanowicz, who I remember as nurse Rose Butchins in Angels, but she must have done a lot more than that.
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Post by heslingtonian on Feb 3, 2023 20:26:31 GMT
Not only was Richard Whiteley a Conservative voter, he was also an active Party member who regularly attended Party Conference in a personal capacity. He was in the Grand Hotel on the night of the Brighton Bombing and I remember seeing him propping up the hotel bar at the 2003 Party Conference. Whatever one thought of his politics, he went too soon and is much missed by many.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 3, 2023 22:26:16 GMT
Richard W lived in East Witton in Wensleydale with his partner, & is buried in the village. He used to hold court at the Blue Lion, good entertaining company. Like a lot of people who make a living out of a 'nice but dim' persona he was a great deal more intelligent than his image. Opinion didn't bother him, as a good Yorkshireman he settled for crying all the way to the bank. His untimely death was a real shock. His partner was, IIRC, actress Kathryn Apanowicz, who I remember as nurse Rose Butchins in Angels, but she must have done a lot more than that. EastEnders for a while I think, might have been a Mrs Ian Beale, IMDB also credits her with an appearance in the wonderful Alan Parker movie, Bugsy. I believe she had not long reconciled with Whitely after he’d admitted to a relationship with another woman.
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Post by johnloony on Feb 3, 2023 22:30:20 GMT
His partner was, IIRC, actress Kathryn Apanowicz, who I remember as nurse Rose Butchins in Angels, but she must have done a lot more than that. EastEnders for a while I think, might have been a Mrs Ian Beale, IMDB also credits her with an appearance in the wonderful Alan Parker movie, Bugsy. I believe she had not long reconciled with Whitely after he’d admitted to a relationship with another woman. She wasn’t a Mrs Beale
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Post by andrewp on Feb 3, 2023 22:35:50 GMT
EastEnders for a while I think, might have been a Mrs Ian Beale, IMDB also credits her with an appearance in the wonderful Alan Parker movie, Bugsy. I believe she had not long reconciled with Whitely after he’d admitted to a relationship with another woman. She wasn’t a Mrs Beale According to wiki she played Magda, a caterer, in Eastenders from 1987-88. I think she played a journalist in Emmerdale too.
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Post by aargauer on Feb 4, 2023 6:57:05 GMT
Not only was Richard Whiteley a Conservative voter, he was also an active Party member who regularly attended Party Conference in a personal capacity. He was in the Grand Hotel on the night of the Brighton Bombing and I remember seeing him propping up the hotel bar at the 2003 Party Conference. Whatever one thought of his politics, he went too soon and is much missed by many. Ricky Tomlinson claimed he was a member of MI-5.
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Post by heslingtonian on Feb 4, 2023 8:01:50 GMT
Not only was Richard Whiteley a Conservative voter, he was also an active Party member who regularly attended Party Conference in a personal capacity. He was in the Grand Hotel on the night of the Brighton Bombing and I remember seeing him propping up the hotel bar at the 2003 Party Conference. Whatever one thought of his politics, he went too soon and is much missed by many. Ricky Tomlinson claimed he was a member of MI-5. He's probably not missed by Ricky Tomlinson
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