peterl
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Post by peterl on Oct 2, 2020 13:31:05 GMT
If recall is not currently possible, is there a possibility that the House may consider expulsion?
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pl
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Post by pl on Oct 2, 2020 14:30:50 GMT
If recall is not currently possible, is there a possibility that the House may consider expulsion? I'd say no... law of unintended consequences applies here. The average MP will think "Who on my side in a marginal seat are we going to end up having to expel next due to a precedent having been sent?"
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mboy
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Post by mboy on Oct 2, 2020 14:31:52 GMT
If recall is not currently possible, is there a possibility that the House may consider expulsion? There is no way the chamber would vote for expulsion in this case. Most MPs would probably secretly do the same.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Oct 2, 2020 14:34:33 GMT
Is it just me or are there others who couldn't care less one way or the other? And would now feel much the same with regard to any MP. It's another case where lots of people will be completely outraged, whilst doing the same thing themselves repeatedly. I do think was bloody stupid though.
Hence the over reaction.
Political Leaders will have to be very careful now, they're setting a precedent for themselves. They could be kicking themselves out of a job, by unneccesarily kicking her out of her's.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 2, 2020 18:20:46 GMT
I'm sorry, but I am a bit concerned at the Ferrier apologia going on. She has been extremely zealous in supporting draconian rules that she herself couldn't follow. She also set a standard, resignation, for breaking those rules.
She must go.
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 2, 2020 19:20:51 GMT
If recall is not currently possible, is there a possibility that the House may consider expulsion? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I think many in the Commons would not want to cast stones from their glass houses Oh I dont know. Johnson kicked a shedload of Tory MPs out of the party for voting against his wishes, yet he did the same when May was PM. Corbyn did likewise with labour despite rebelling against the leadership how many hundred times when he was a backbench MP?
You seem to equate MPs with having some sort of moral compass! Not been seen for at least 5 years or more I'm afraid (with the odd notable exception)
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 2, 2020 20:30:41 GMT
I thought everyone from Hamilton was Academical?
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 2, 2020 20:31:39 GMT
I thought everyone from Hamilton was Academical? Badoom-tish!
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 2, 2020 20:39:43 GMT
I thought everyone from Hamilton was Academical? These days it is also a musical!
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 2, 2020 21:17:16 GMT
I thought everyone from Hamilton was Academical? These days it is also a musical! Let's hope she doesn't start challenging people to duels!
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 2, 2020 21:27:50 GMT
These days it is also a musical! Let's hope she doesn't start challenging people to duels! I don't see a problem so long as they are socially distanced duels ...
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 3, 2020 7:23:13 GMT
As to the principle, she is clearly not going until someone (the First Minister) or something (the House of Commons) pushes her.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 3, 2020 7:54:40 GMT
As to the principle, she is clearly not going until someone (the First Minister) or something (the House of Commons) pushes her. The FM has no power to remove her as an MP. The House of Commons has the power to suspend her for a time which could trigger a "recall" vote.
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Post by southernliberal on Oct 3, 2020 9:57:46 GMT
As to the principle, she is clearly not going until someone (the First Minister) or something (the House of Commons) pushes her. The First Minister has said that she should resign.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 3, 2020 10:33:28 GMT
A statement that may have moral force, but makes no actual difference legally.
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mboy
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Post by mboy on Oct 3, 2020 11:27:51 GMT
Yes, everyone called for O’Mara to resign, and it made no difference.
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ilerda
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Post by ilerda on Oct 3, 2020 11:33:01 GMT
She’s one of those MPs who has an incredibly high opinion of her own importance.
I suspect she’s torn between giving up the job she loves and accepting what’s best for the party that she believes so passionately in.
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mboy
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Post by mboy on Oct 3, 2020 12:12:19 GMT
She’s one of those MPs who has an incredibly high opinion of her own importance. She’s one of...all of them... you mean?
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 3, 2020 12:28:37 GMT
She’s one of those MPs who has an incredibly high opinion of her own importance. I suspect she’s torn between giving up the job she loves and accepting what’s best for the party that she believes so passionately in. I honestly had never heard of her until this incident, so hadn't formed an opinion of her. This is despite some of my family living in her constituency. Of course, from a psephological point of view, I knew Rutherglen etc. was an SNP gain in 2019.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Oct 3, 2020 22:47:12 GMT
What more than Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock. 😂 Nah. As one of these students, can I just say, she gets everything she deserves. I second that. I'm a student who has had the misfortune to catch Covid twice,even when following social distancing and other Covid regs at all times when twats like this are spreading it with impunity.
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