The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 14, 2021 13:30:10 GMT
Maybe not, but we will take our wins where we can get them.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 14, 2021 14:30:47 GMT
He’s quit
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Post by Wisconsin on Oct 14, 2021 14:33:51 GMT
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cogload
Lib Dem
I jumped in the river and what did I see...
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Post by cogload on Oct 14, 2021 15:04:02 GMT
Turnout 10%.
At least he resigned. Eventually.
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neilm
Non-Aligned
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Post by neilm on Oct 14, 2021 15:38:47 GMT
I don't see that he did anything wrong. He said that women should educate themselves on what you can and can't be arrested for. This is surely the duty of every citizen anyway.
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Post by bungle on Oct 14, 2021 15:50:34 GMT
Normally I'd be thrilled at the prospect of casting a ballot in a by-election, not least because of this site. However, the prospect of this vast county going to the polls during the winter for a post that shouldn't exist just depresses me.
That said, the absurdly low turnout and huge cost required for the by-election might just reignite the debate about the whole PCC nonsense. It is not as if the next door commissioner in Cleveland is coping much better...
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 14, 2021 15:52:19 GMT
11-0 on a body dominated by elected Conservatives and Conservative placemen Having said that, he never had his officers beat up women protesting because one of his officers had murdered a woman so I am not convinced the case for his dismissal is stronger than that for Cressida Dick Dick is a cop, Allott is a politician. One is a job in which you can literally get away with murder (though less so in the UK than in most other countries I know, including my own). The other is a job where your public words may be weighed meticulously. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 14, 2021 16:12:03 GMT
Yes, I do accept that I am comparing apples with pears But I think it is valid to compare the actions of the Conservative Cllrs with the actions of the Home Secretary and I shall now take to Twitter and troll her Certainly. You have my blessing. |
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yorkshireluke
Lib Dem
I run @polmapsinfoUK, @YorkshireElects and /r/PoliticalMaps/
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Post by yorkshireluke on Oct 14, 2021 17:58:19 GMT
I am 21 years old and this will be the second PPC by-election I will have voted in.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 14, 2021 17:58:53 GMT
I am 21 years old and this will be the second PPC by-election I will have voted in. You lucky, lucky ...  |
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 14, 2021 18:16:16 GMT
If Sarah Everard had resisted arrest, any officer who arrived would have assisted the arrest. She would have lived and she would have been prosecuted. And BTW, most of you Doktorbian arseholes on here would have applauded the prosecution. Bad hair day? |
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neilm
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Post by neilm on Oct 14, 2021 18:20:42 GMT
I don't see that he did anything wrong. He said that women should educate themselves on what you can and can't be arrested for. This is surely the duty of every citizen anyway. If Sarah Everard had resisted arrest, any officer who arrived would have assisted the arrest. She would have lived and she would have been prosecuted. If I had assisted her to resist arrest, I would have been arrested with full force and prosecuted. There is not and can never be an expectation on the public to resist arrest. If you support that proposition, you need to be ready to attend a few funerals, some of them of cops That neilm is the dumbest post you will make this month The issue is knowing what they can arrest you for: he was quite right that people need to be more aware of this. I have no problem with the funerals of police officers. I've said throughout this that I would resist a single officer and that I'd act in self defence if I deemed it necessary, in the manner I deemed proportionate. We have policing by consent in this country. That means knowing what the police can and can't do, lest they stray. It is incumbent on everybody to have a basic grasp of what are arrestable offences, and if necessary fight back. On the other hand, I'm a six foot tall bloke who has a gym membership. A lone copper is unlikely to approach me, unless he wants help. Then I'd make a judgement about whether that was necessary. Almost always, it wouldn't be. I am singularly unimpressed with the police in the UK. I don't go as far as to say that they're scum who need to be ground down like dirt on my shoe, but every single infraction needs calling out. Every illegally parked car, every car going a bit too fast, every time they harass a young black guy, every refusal to intervene to prevent a crime, every failure to report wrongdoing in their own nick. Eery single damn thing they do needs scrutinising and watching, and once they show that they can behave no one will need to know what they can and can't be arrested for, and won't need to exact a proportionate response on the police officer acting out of bounds. |
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J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 14, 2021 21:55:46 GMT
I am 21 years old and this will be the second PPC by-election I will have voted in.
If you discuss it with The Circle we can help you give up.  |
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peterl
Green
Congratulations President Trump
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Post by peterl on Oct 14, 2021 22:27:36 GMT
I am 21 years old and this will be the second PPC by-election I will have voted in. Anywhere outside of this forum you would in the distinct minority for bothering to do so. |
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Post by agbutler on Oct 14, 2021 22:34:00 GMT
I am 21 years old and this will be the second PPC by-election I will have voted in. I'm 20 and it's my third |
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Richard Allen
Banned
Four time loser in VUKPOTY finals
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 14, 2021 23:31:39 GMT
I am 21 years old and this will be the second PPC by-election I will have voted in. I'm 20 and it's my third 3 PCC by elections at the age of 20? |
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Post by agbutler on Oct 14, 2021 23:43:51 GMT
3 PCC by elections at the age of 20? I'm an idiot and can't read. It's my third PCC election. But not by-election. |
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Post by samdwebber on Oct 15, 2021 9:40:11 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 15, 2021 9:58:27 GMT
35 working days from the vacancy.
Has be actually resigned or pledged to? Journalists yesterday were saying he'd quit, yet the commissioner's twitter account says he is "to resign"
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The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 15, 2021 10:02:00 GMT
3 PCC by elections at the age of 20? I'm an idiot and can't read. It's my third PCC election. But not by-election. If you are 20, how have you managed even that? |
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