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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 8, 2021 10:35:09 GMT
Very sad news this morning.
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Post by ricmk on Oct 8, 2021 10:38:04 GMT
Very sad indeed; James Brokenshire seemed a thoroughly decent person and my impression in both NI and Local Government was that he was one of the best Secretaries of State in recent memory.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 8, 2021 10:40:34 GMT
Very sad indeed; James Brokenshire seemed a thoroughly decent person and my impression in both NI and Local Government was that he was one of the best Secretaries of State in recent memory. Agree 100% definitely one of the good guys. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 10:48:28 GMT
Very sad and shocking news.
RIP.
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Post by islington on Oct 8, 2021 10:53:38 GMT
Very sad indeed; James Brokenshire seemed a thoroughly decent person and my impression in both NI and Local Government was that he was one of the best Secretaries of State in recent memory. Indeed. I think everyone knew it was coming but it's a great shame nevertheless.
As I mentioned on another thread, when he was at the Home Office I had some dealings with him in my professional capacity and he was a cut above any other minister I've met, Labour or Tory.
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 8, 2021 10:54:37 GMT
Yes, very sad. As SoS at MHCLG he overturned official advice and refused planning permission in relation to a poorly designed tall building in my area, for which my local community is eternally grateful.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 8, 2021 11:07:32 GMT
Yes, he seemed genuinely interested in local government in a way that certainly doesn't apply to all Tories these days.
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Post by right on Oct 8, 2021 11:10:14 GMT
It's terribly sad news. A very good man who even if you had crossed swords with him was always kind and personable if you met him later. Not something you could say of many politicians who got that far. I take it that the lead is too much for Labour to overturn and a Liberal breakout would be the most plausible way for this to fall, buy this last had a Liberal second place in the 1980s. This blog puts the Referendum result as almost 2:1 to Leave, but that's not going to be enough on its own to stop a Liberal breakout democraticdashboard.com/constituency/old-bexley-and-sidcupIt's not as promising as Chesham, but the Liberals must be disappointed if they lose this by-election. |
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Post by Clark on Oct 8, 2021 11:11:16 GMT
Very sad news. I was shocked to hear as he was back in the Commons several months ago after treatment and thought he was on the road to recovery.
Lib Dems are quite weak in this constituency so I'm not sure if any party can challenge the Tories here.
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Post by seanryanj on Oct 8, 2021 11:11:52 GMT
Such sad news, was well liked by most people in NI. So sad for his family.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 8, 2021 11:13:07 GMT
Labour weren't that far away here in their Blair landslides and may at least fight some sort of campaign (in contrast to C&A)
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Post by msc on Oct 8, 2021 11:14:25 GMT
Sad news. 53 is no age at all. I agree with all above that he came across as one of the decent chaps in parliament, but that's obviously secondary to three kids losing their dad so young. RIP.
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Post by zoe on Oct 8, 2021 11:14:28 GMT
As many have said he was a genuinely nice person.
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Post by Wisconsin on Oct 8, 2021 11:15:14 GMT
It's not as promising as Chesham, but the Liberals [sic] must be disappointed if they lose this by-election. Astonishing spin. Disappointed not to get a 28+(?) point swing and take a seat from third place? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 8, 2021 11:15:19 GMT
Very sad, especially aged just 53.
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Post by right on Oct 8, 2021 11:23:19 GMT
It's not as promising as Chesham, but the Liberals [sic] must be disappointed if they lose this by-election. Astonishing spin. Disappointed not to get a 28+(?) point swing and take a seat from third place? No, it's a compliment. This is an incredibly skittish time and the Lib Dems have a by-election machine second to none. If I wanted to spin this I'd be talking about Labour's secure second place and saying this was a test for Keir as not only can't Labour win this (unlike the Liberals) but it would big up the lesser threat. In fact I'd be expecting exactly this line from Tory Central office if they have their wits about them more than they did in Amersham. |
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Oct 8, 2021 11:23:32 GMT
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Post by johng on Oct 8, 2021 11:25:34 GMT
Very sad news. 53 is no age at all. It's not as promising as Chesham, but the Liberals must be disappointed if they lose this by-election. I'm not sure if this is serious or not. The Lib Dems have no chance of gaining this. They've never been the main challenger and they even lost their deposits in 2015 and 2017. My early take is it will be comfortable Tory hold. |
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Post by andrewp on Oct 8, 2021 11:26:51 GMT
A decent man. Not unexpected but very sad.
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Post by elinorhelyn on Oct 8, 2021 11:35:33 GMT
RIP James Brokenshire. I think it will be a comfortable Tory hold. Outer London leave voting seat. I would love to see the Mayoral and GLA elections to compare. To the Lib Dem, this is no Chesham and Amersham, democrgrahics are not in your favour and your not in second place by a mile.
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