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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 18, 2022 23:58:24 GMT
The one on forbidding TabaccoAdvertisements was popular, opposed only by the bourgeois parties: As a result, only their StrongHolds rejected it:
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 19, 2022 0:02:46 GMT
The least interesting one - forbidding AnimalTesting - was outbalancing the success of the TabaccoAds-one. Being opposed even by TheGreens: ...it failed everywhere (in Ticino less, perhaps a media-thing?):
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Post by westmercian on Feb 25, 2022 11:05:57 GMT
Pleasing set of results, though the idea of such opposition to banning tobacco advertising (from a British perspective) is a little shocking.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Apr 4, 2022 0:24:08 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 6, 2022 1:50:19 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 15, 2022 11:01:12 GMT
To my surprise all 3 referenda will be accepted by clear margins.
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 16, 2022 11:53:12 GMT
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Post by aargauer on May 16, 2022 16:09:12 GMT
To my surprise all 3 referenda will be accepted by clear margins. I thought (and hoped) the film referendum would fail. Generally the only way the left wins a referendum is if it is coated with the Swiss flag.
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 16, 2022 18:25:54 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 17, 2022 10:14:39 GMT
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 17, 2022 16:15:36 GMT
Shame the referendum to defund Frontex was lost. It would have been a useful turn of the screw on those Russia-dependent profligates in Brussels.
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 17, 2022 16:36:56 GMT
%-gains&losses in the cantonal elections:
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 17, 2022 16:44:17 GMT
Shame the referendum to defund Frontex was lost. It would have been a useful turn of the screw on those Russia-dependent profligates in Brussels. Well, the SVP was indeed split - like the left -, but its delegates finally opted for it very narrowly. Indeed it might have been hilarious, if the left had helped them toppling Schengen & the EU&CH-treaties ("BiLaterale"). But it's not unlikely, that MidLeft - and especially the FDP/economy - would have submitted CH to the EU even more then.
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Post by aargauer on May 17, 2022 19:32:24 GMT
Shame the referendum to defund Frontex was lost. It would have been a useful turn of the screw on those Russia-dependent profligates in Brussels. Well, the SVP was indeed split - like the left -, but its delegates finally opted for it very narrowly. Indeed it might have been hilarious, if the left had helped them toppling Schengen & the EU&CH-treaties ("BiLaterale"). But it's not unlikely, that MidLeft - and especially the FDP/economy - would have submitted CH to the EU even more then. The FDP are pragmatists on the EU - support the bilateral agreements but don't see in Switzerlands interest to get drawn into the bubble more than is strictly necessary. I fully support them on that. It's never going to be sensibly ran by Swiss standards, nor is it democratic by Swiss standards, but they are neighbours and much bigger economies. And mid left? I would have said not dissimilar to the right wing of the orange bookers. In some ways to the right of the SVP who are not at all free traders. Trumpian before Trump. For the British observer: SVP = Social Conservatives. Low tax but pro tariff. FDP = Classical liberals Die Mitte = Pointless centrists (formerly CVP and BDP). Lean slightly conservative on social issues and economics. Green Liberals = centrist greens (probably would get the bulk of the UK Lib Dem vote). Lean slightly leftwards but not uncommon for them to join the right wing block either. SP = socialists Green = standard far left greens Switzerland being Switzerland there is no danger of the right ever losing in my Gemeinde (im moving from an SVP leaning small town - Frick -to a very SVP village of 900 people. - Ueken), Kanton, or Country wide.
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 17, 2022 22:35:24 GMT
Well, the SVP was indeed split - like the left -, but its delegates finally opted for it very narrowly. Indeed it might have been hilarious, if the left had helped them toppling Schengen & the EU&CH-treaties ("BiLaterale"). But it's not unlikely, that MidLeft - and especially the FDP/economy - would have submitted CH to the EU even more then. The FDP are pragmatists on the EU - support the bilateral agreements but don't see in Switzerlands interest to get drawn into the bubble more than is strictly necessary. I fully support them on that. It's never going to be sensibly ran by Swiss standards, nor is it democratic by Swiss standards, but they are neighbours and much bigger economies. And mid left? I would have said not dissimilar to the right wing of the orange bookers. In some ways to the right of the SVP who are not at all free traders. Trumpian before Trump. For the British observer: SVP = Social Conservatives. Low tax but pro tariff. FDP = Classical liberals Die Mitte = Pointless centrists (formerly CVP and BDP). Lean slightly conservative on social issues and economics. Green Liberals = centrist greens (probably would get the bulk of the UK Lib Dem vote). Lean slightly leftwards but not uncommon for them to join the right wing block either. SP = socialists Green = standard far left greens Switzerland being Switzerland there is no danger of the right ever losing in my Gemeinde (im moving from an SVP leaning small town - Frick -to a very SVP village of 900 people. - Ueken), Kanton, or Country wide. The party of billionaire Blocher is clearly proCapitalistic, though. (Another reason for them to avoid contacts to quasi all xenophobic parties abroad, as these are usually nationalistic& socialistic.) As a conSequence their share among the BlueCollars is lower than in other countries: Surprising, that the SchweizerDemokraten/SD have not profited from this. Their elec.system would be in big cantons for small parties helpful. But the media-attention was too low. After all CH is importing more from the EU than exporting into it and could bloc the transAlpine transitRoutes - but the "FreiSinnige" (=FreeMinders) are far too much "WeichSinnige" (=weak/softMinders) for being not servile. Painful to watch.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 4, 2022 0:33:37 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Jul 5, 2022 1:10:18 GMT
Someone should do a pretty map of the result (in each canton/district) of the Yes/No votes in all referendums in the entire history of Switzerland, all added up. Doesn't matter what sort of questions or proposals they all were - just the Yes/No balance in each place.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 5, 2022 2:12:30 GMT
Someone should do a pretty map of the result (in each canton/district) of the Yes/No votes in all referendums in the entire history of Switzerland, all added up. Doesn't matter what sort of questions or proposals they all were - just the Yes/No balance in each place. hullenedge was once so friendly&generous to go into Your very eccentric wishes, made a map - and was then criticised by You. At least some sense make maps, which municipalities have usually been on the winning side: The most deviant (=red) municipalities are - apart from the French&Italian minorities - in very conservative areas like Schwyz, S-Bern, SW-Aargau. Here is another one:
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Post by aargauer on Jul 5, 2022 11:11:40 GMT
Ennetbaden is Zurich commuter land. Wollerau also, for those that don't like paying tax (northern SZ and ZG are the cantons to go to in this respect).
Unteriberg is classic SZ ultra conservative territory (its remarkable that SZ votes so conservatively on social isssues when the northern portion is tax avoiding Zuri commuters - the south is very, very conservative - in the US sense).
Jura is mostly a dump that should really be in France.
I am a bit surprised that Ennetbaden is supposedly the most "liberal" place in Switzerland. It is not *that" close to Zuri, and I would have thought one of the innerBasel suburbs like Bottmingen or Binningen would have been a better bet. At least in the German bit.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 5, 2022 21:06:12 GMT
its remarkable that SZ votes so conservatively on social isssues when the northern portion is tax avoiding Zuri commuters - the south is very, very conservative - in the US sense Schwyz was used since the MiddleAges as a pars pro toto for the C.H. as a whole, as its young eMigrants working in Germany were infamously bellicose...
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