Swiss referenda

[paulypaul]

I see that in the Swiss referendum held today, they voted to curb excessive executive pay awards.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21647937

Interestingly, Swiss nationals based overseas are able to vote online.

www.ictparliament.org/node/6706

[Andrew_S]

It'll be interesting to see how this affects the Swiss economy.

[paulypaul]

Hmmm yes, especially with all of those city bankers heading to Geneva if the EU goes through with a bonus cap.

[john07]

Mar 4, 2013 12:02:38 GMT paulypaul said:

Hmmm yes, especially with all of those city bankers heading to Geneva if the EU goes through with a bonus cap.

Singapore and Hong Kong will be very congested!

Imagine all those bankers saying 'gizza job'.

[paulypaul]

Mar 4, 2013 16:41:52 GMT john07 said:

Mar 4, 2013 12:02:38 GMT paulypaul said:

Hmmm yes, especially with all of those city bankers heading to Geneva if the EU goes through with a bonus cap.

Singapore and Hong Kong will be very congested!

Imagine all those bankers saying 'gizza job'.

What is cantonese for 'loadsa money'?

[AdminSTB]

Mar 4, 2013 19:44:39 GMT paulypaul said:

Mar 4, 2013 16:41:52 GMT john07 said:

Singapore and Hong Kong will be very congested!

Imagine all those bankers saying 'gizza job'.

What is cantonese for 'loadsa money'?

Just tell them to write "请逮捕我".

[paulypaul]

Mar 4, 2013 22:34:41 GMT AdminSTB said:

Mar 4, 2013 19:44:39 GMT paulypaul said:

What is cantonese for 'loadsa money'?

Just tell them to write "请逮捕我".

Very funny!

[Devonian]

Swiss voters have narrowly backed a referendum proposal to bring back strict quotas for immigration from European Union countries.

Final results showed 50.3% voted in favour. The vote invalidates the Swiss-EU agreement on freedom of movement.

A Yes vote of more than 50% was needed for the referendum to pass.

The BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva says the vote has shown up traditional divisions, with French-speaking areas against the quotas, German-speaking regions divided, and the Italian-speaking canton of Ticino firmly in favour.[...]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26108597

Full details here
www.admin.ch/ch/d/pore/va/20140209/det580.html

For           1,463,954   50.3%
Against    1,444,428   49.7%

[Deleted]

Turnout was below 50% wasn't it?

[Devonian]

Feb 9, 2014 18:01:10 GMT cogload said:

Turnout was below 50% wasn't it?

No, Turnout was 58.8%. In fact looking at the figures turnout was over 50% in every single Canton and Half-Canton

Cantons and Half Cantons voting Yes

Bern, Luzern, Uri, Schwyz, Obwalden, Nidwalden, Glarus, Solothurn, Basel-Landschaft, Schaffhausen, Appenzell A.-Rh., Appenzell I.-Rh., St. Gallen, Graubünden, Aargau, Thurgau, Tessin

Cantons and Half_cantons voting No

Zürich, Zug, Freiburg, Basel-Stadt, Waadt, Wallis, Neuenburg, Genf, Jura

[carlton43]

Feb 9, 2014 17:53:15 GMT Devonian said:

Swiss voters have narrowly backed a referendum proposal to bring back strict quotas for immigration from European Union countries.

Final results showed 50.3% voted in favour. The vote invalidates the Swiss-EU agreement on freedom of movement.

A Yes vote of more than 50% was needed for the referendum to pass.

The BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva says the vote has shown up traditional divisions, with French-speaking areas against the quotas, German-speaking regions divided, and the Italian-speaking canton of Ticino firmly in favour.[...]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26108597

Full details here
www.admin.ch/ch/d/pore/va/20140209/det580.html

For           1,463,954   50.3%
Against    1,444,428   49.7%

Excellent news Devonian. Thanks for posting. If only we could do the same here and force the politicians hand over the pernicious and disasterous free movement rules. It could also trigger the mechanics for a break up of their association and if we had so voted, our association, with the EU. This might be a better course for a referendum here and much easier to win....the exit would then follow as part of the fall-out? 

[Deleted]

So less than 1% on a turnout of less than 60%.

Hmm.

[Devonian]

Feb 9, 2014 18:12:57 GMT cogload said:

So less than 1% on a turnout of less than 60%.

Hmm.

58.8% is actually quite a good turnout for a Swiss National Referendum. Turnouts are frequently below 50% and 58.8% is the highest turnout for a national Referendum in Switzerland since 1992.

[Deleted]

Feb 9, 2014 18:12:57 GMT cogload said:

So less than 1% on a turnout of less than 60%.

Hmm.

Thats a very good turnout - getting towards GE levels here...

I would have voted no yes - but only so we would get chucked out of the EU, but im afraid that the result should be respected here.

[Deleted]

It should be. It will be interesting to see what happens next..

[Devonian]

UKIP's response to Swiss Referendum result

Swiss voters have backed a referendum proposal to bring back strict quotas for immigration from European Union countries.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: "The Swiss people have taken advantage of their position outside the European Union to set their own immigration rules in their own national interest and I congratulate them for doing so.

"It is becoming more and more obvious to people across Europe that unfettered free movement from the poorest countries on the continent into the more advanced ones with higher living standards and welfare entitlements is unsustainable.

"Were the British people to be given their own referendum on this issue then the result would be the same - but by a landslide."

www.ukip.org/newsroom/news/1147-ukip-s-response-to-swiss-referendum-result

[Deleted]

Feb 9, 2014 20:58:34 GMT Devonian said:

UKIP's response to Swiss Referendum result

Swiss voters have backed a referendum proposal to bring back strict quotas for immigration from European Union countries.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: "The Swiss people have taken advantage of their position outside the European Union to set their own immigration rules in their own national interest and I congratulate them for doing so.

"It is becoming more and more obvious to people across Europe that unfettered free movement from the poorest countries on the continent into the more advanced ones with higher living standards and welfare entitlements is unsustainable.

"Were the British people to be given their own referendum on this issue then the result would be the same - but by a landslide."

www.ukip.org/newsroom/news/1147-ukip-s-response-to-swiss-referendum-result

Although now the EU can eject them from the common market..

[carlton43]

The Cantonal breakdown is most interesting in demonstrating that wealth, commerce, banking, agriculture, rural and Italian supported this and industrial and French were against. This must have split communities and families in many places. I did not see Stans in the BBC list and wonder how it voted? It is a Canton without income taxes because it provides very few services and increasingly attracts the wealthy who don't want any...a virtuous circle of anti socialism.

[Devonian]

Feb 10, 2014 1:05:50 GMT carlton43 said:

The Cantonal breakdown is most interesting in demonstrating that wealth, commerce, banking, agriculture, rural and Italian supported this and industrial and French were against. This must have split communities and families in many places. I did not see Stans in the BBC list and wonder how it voted? It is a Canton without income taxes because it provides very few services and increasingly attracts the wealthy who don't want any...a virtuous circle of anti socialism.

I've just checked to see that Stans is the Capital of Nidwalden. Nidwalden voted 58.8% Yes 41.2% No, Turnout 60.3%

[Sibboleth]

Ah, the usual pattern. Twenty toe country vs. the rest.