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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 20, 2021 17:32:19 GMT
"As well as voting 55 per cent for Remain, Chesham and Amersham is more socially liberal than the majority of British constituencies on a number of issues. Polling shows that constituents there are relatively supportive of liberal immigration policies. And they think political correctness is more important than free speech. On these cultural questions, Chesham and Amersham is the polar opposite of the Red Wall seats the Tories have hoovered up." www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/18/chesham-and-amersham-the-revenge-of-remainia/I have seen a quote from a Lib Dem canvasser in C&A (yes, somebody who actually set foot there during the by-election) saying that a "foreign affairs" issue was raised on the doorstep, in the shape of the aid cuts. Which the resident didn't like. And considered an issue of sufficient weight to shift their vote. I rather like that. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 20, 2021 17:39:05 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity:
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 20, 2021 18:02:24 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: Dignity in defeat is a fine thing. He sounds like a child explaining away a 6-0 defeat in the local U-11 football cup. "Some of their boys were bigger than us, no way were they under 11; the ref was biased; the pitch was to blame; nobody passed to me; etc etc" |
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Post by andrew111 on Jun 20, 2021 18:16:15 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: Dignity in defeat is a fine thing. He sounds like a child explaining away a 6-0 defeat in the local U-11 football cup. "Some of their boys were bigger than us, no way were they under 11; the ref was biased; the pitch was to blame; nobody passed to me; etc etc"I would be pretty surprised if Sarah "promised to cancel HS2". However if she promised to stop the Tory Planning Bill she is likely to be successful. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 20, 2021 18:50:49 GMT
Thirdly it was nice to see the Lib Dems remind everyone that they are the most dishonest bunch of shysters that you could ever be unfortunate enough to meet. Their campaign was a quite simply superb appeal to selfish nimbyism and the maintenance of wealth by the comfortable middle class. Next time any of these sods start talking about affordable housing or opportunities for the young we all know exactly how seriously to take them. Those fine words in the preamble of their constitution that they are so proud of mean nothing. There is no principle that they hold that they would not sell if the number of votes offered was high enough. They have re-established themselves as the ultimate opportunists in British politics. As your own signature reminds us, extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 20, 2021 18:56:03 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: What a graceless, entitled loser. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 20, 2021 19:15:31 GMT
2006 I think, Dunfermline? I have a feeling 2006 predates 2010.  I think the point is that there were no Lib Dem by-election gains between Dunfermline and West Fife in 2006 and Richmond Park in 2016. Ten wasted years! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 19:19:59 GMT
Average performance of the big three in Chesham & Amersham and Hartlepool
CON 43.7%
LD 28.95%
LAB 15.15%
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Post by aidypiez on Jun 20, 2021 19:23:12 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: Dignity in defeat is a fine thing. He sounds like a child explaining away a 6-0 defeat in the local U-11 football cup. "Some of their boys were bigger than us, no way were they under 11; the ref was biased; the pitch was to blame; nobody passed to me; etc etc"The cope in this thread is absolutely glorious. A real chef's kiss to add to the salty comments up thread |
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jun 20, 2021 19:31:04 GMT
"As well as voting 55 per cent for Remain, Chesham and Amersham is more socially liberal than the majority of British constituencies on a number of issues. Polling shows that constituents there are relatively supportive of liberal immigration policies. And they think political correctness is more important than free speech. On these cultural questions, Chesham and Amersham is the polar opposite of the Red Wall seats the Tories have hoovered up." How the very fuck is thinking 'political correctness is more important than free speech' a socially liberal position? |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 20, 2021 19:36:48 GMT
"As well as voting 55 per cent for Remain, Chesham and Amersham is more socially liberal than the majority of British constituencies on a number of issues. Polling shows that constituents there are relatively supportive of liberal immigration policies. And they think political correctness is more important than free speech. On these cultural questions, Chesham and Amersham is the polar opposite of the Red Wall seats the Tories have hoovered up." How the very fuck is thinking 'political correctness is more important than free speech' a socially liberal position? Depends on how you define it. In America it means pro minority rights etc, and I think that's the way it's used here - as opposed to free speech to be racist, for example. Also, this is an article in Spiked. They don't view tmselves as socially liberal so wouldn't use it in an acclamatory way |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 20, 2021 19:37:52 GMT
The rule is that endorsing someone before the election is grouunds for automatic exclusion (NB not expulsion) from Labour Party membership, but saying you voted for a different party after the election is not. Except if you're Alistair Campbell and the General Secretary is a Trot. Or your name’s Michael Cashman and the General Secretary is a Trot. Cashman resigned. Did a lot for gay rights, but unreconstructed Blairite. |
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Post by thirdchill on Jun 20, 2021 19:43:28 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: That first tweet on its own would have been OK. |
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Post by neilm on Jun 20, 2021 19:44:49 GMT
Dignity in defeat is a fine thing. He sounds like a child explaining away a 6-0 defeat in the local U-11 football cup. "Some of their boys were bigger than us, no way were they under 11; the ref was biased; the pitch was to blame; nobody passed to me; etc etc"I would be pretty surprised if Sarah "promised to cancel HS2". However if she promised to stop the Tory Planning Bill she is likely to be successful. I think she's likely to be unsuccessful at that endeavour. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 20, 2021 19:49:55 GMT
This thread (all 25 tweets), I mean no one likes to loose, but come on mate have a bit of dignity: That first tweet on its own would have been OK. Even there he can't help describing it as "Dame Cheryl Gillan's seat" as if it were some hereditary fiefdom. |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 20, 2021 19:56:08 GMT
Not a betting person, but agree with points 2 and 3. Most people praising your third point seem to come from elsewhere on the political spectrum. I am happy to reconcile doing so with the fact I've voted for Ms Green before and voted LD as recently as last month (albeit in a meaningless election for a position that shouldn't exist). When we had a Lib Dem MP around here, she often wore a 'green LD' badge and claimed to be in favour of wind farms, but when residents of a village on the edge of the constituency got together to oppose such a development, she jumped on the bandwagon to support their objections. And of course none of that pivot to populist nimbyism stopped her from losing heavily at the following 3 general elections. Even though I still voted for her at the middle one. Which constituency? I'm in Wells, but back when there were a plethora of Lib Dem MPs in the rural South West, there must've been countless examples of similar inconsistencies. |
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 20, 2021 20:02:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 20:12:05 GMT
Lewes was Lib Dem from 1997 to 2015. Hardly 'Blue Wall'. What is he smoking? |
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Post by andrew111 on Jun 20, 2021 20:24:24 GMT
I would be pretty surprised if Sarah "promised to cancel HS2". However if she promised to stop the Tory Planning Bill she is likely to be successful. I think she's likely to be unsuccessful at that endeavour. It will not get voted down in the Labour Party motion this week, but the final Bill will be very different from the Green Paper, imo. And it may not happen this session... |
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 20, 2021 20:26:06 GMT
Lewes was Lib Dem from 1997 to 2015. Hardly 'Blue Wall'. What is he smoking? Difficult to know what definition he is using. Don’t know why few seats in Essex or Kent appear. |
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