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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 7, 2021 21:43:59 GMT
 Central Scotland seats: Stirling: 70,085 Clackmannan and Grangemouth: 75,451 Falkirk: 75,106 Linlithgow: 71,318 Livingston: 75,786 Ward splits: Larbert and Bonnybridge: Larbert goes into C&G, Bonnybridge to Falkirk Broxburn, Uphall and Winchburgh: Winchburgh goes into Linlithgow, the rest to Livingston (Again, there's a discrepancy in numbers between what I have above and what's in the graphic, as I don't know the electorate of Winchburgh. It must be about 2000–2500, based on the population of the place. But even if it's less, the two West Lothian seats should be in range.) The elephant in the room is whether Clackmannan and Grangemouth would be permitted because of the lack of direct road links. If it isn't, then it would be possible to split Stirling North as far as the most easterly bridge over the Forth in that ward (only a few electors would be affected), and then move that territory plus Bannockburn into C&G, move Grangemouth into Falkirk, and move Denny and Banknock into Stirling. The numbers for that would also work. As an aside, the only Falkirk part of the Linlithgow seat, Bo'ness, was historically a West Lothian town anyway. |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 7, 2021 21:50:32 GMT
 Edinburgh seats: Edinburgh West: 70,531 Edinburgh South West: 72,694 Edinburgh North and Leith: 76,517 Edinburgh East: 71,150 Edinburgh South: 71,409 Split wards: Inverleith: between West and North as at present, but with one PD transferred from North to West in Blackhall Colinton/Fairmilehead: between South and South West as at present, current boundary maintained Southside/Newington: between South and East as at present, but with one PD transferred from East to South in Prestonfield I've treated Edinburgh as a single unit, and gone for as minimum a change as possible while trying not to split too many wards. The inclusion of the New Town in Edinburgh East feels odd, as it would work better in North and Leith, where it current resides. It would be possible to move it there if Leith Links were transferred in the opposite direction (thus keeping Leith Links in East). On the other hand, that would mean further ward splits, and Leith Links really should be in a Leith seat. |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 7, 2021 21:58:32 GMT
 Southern Scotland seats East Lothian: 73,708 Roxburgh, Berwickshire and Dunbar: 74,769 Dumfries and Galloway: 70,941 Dumfriesshire, Tweeddale and Selkirk: 71,938 Ward splits: Dunbar and East Gifford: East Gifford and a few western villages stay in East Lothian, Dunbar and the eastern villages join the Borders seat Lochar: the parts within the A75 ring road are kept in Dumfries, the parts outside it, including Heathall and Locharbriggs, are moved into DTS. I've gone for relatively small changes to Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale here. The Clydesdale parts have been removed, and replaced with Selkirk, while the shortfall in Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk has been made up with the addition of Dunbar. I've no idea what the electoral numbers are in East Lothian, but as Dunbar and West Barns make up about two-thirds of the population of the ward, I would imagine that at least three-quarters of the ward electorate (taking into account the villages) will be among the amount transferred. I'm not uploading figures for Ayrshire, as I'm happy with the proposals suggested elsewhere of Ayrshire North & Arran, Kilmarnock and Irvine, Ayr, and Ayrshire South East. I'll upload the greater Glasgow maps tomorrow. Apologies for the rapid succession of posts and maps so late in the evening. |
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Post by YL on Apr 8, 2021 13:28:47 GMT
I have no problem with Ardnamurchan going into Argyll and Bute, as it was part of the old Argyll seat before 1983. But I would prefer Caol to be added as well. This would have the added benefit of meaning that the whole of Culloden and Ardersier could go into Inverness, and the whole of Lhanbryde and Fochabers to Moray. For Caol to be added to Argyll, Bute would need to be removed, perhaps to Inverclyde – though that would mean a tri-council seat. Ardnamurchan and Morvern would have been in Argyll, but surely Fort William wouldn't have been? My concerns about splitting the Fort William area would of course be dealt with by your suggestion of adding Caol as well. If removing Bute, I think I'd put it with Arran in the Ayrshire group in spite of where the ferry link goes, not just because of the historical link but because the Clyde islands are likely to have interests in common. |
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Post by islington on Apr 8, 2021 13:56:53 GMT
I've had some success in locating polling district electorates (from relatively recent – meaning 2015 or later – elections, or polling district reviews) for a number of councils: Highland, Moray, Aberdeen, Perth & Kinross, Glasgow, Falkirk, Edinburgh, Renfrewshire, South Lanarkshire and Dumfries & Galloway. I've searched in vain for any that cover Fife, West Lothian, North Lanarkshire, East Dunbartonshire, East Renfrewshire and Argyll and Bute. I downloaded and saved the relevant files, but will try to find the links. I had to assume that the split of electors within the districts of each ward for a given election on a given date was the same as for the BCS's figures this time, but the chances are that they will be pretty close to that in most cases. Anyway, I think I've got a plan (or plans) for Scotland, which I'll post shortly. It's based on piperdave 's suggested grouping of councils earlier on this thread, though I've also acted on (I think) YL 's suggestion of linking the Renfrewshire authorities with Lanarkshire and Dunbartonshire. I'd be hugely obliged if you could provide the link for Edinburgh - I'm keen to see whether the split I have in mind for Leith Walk actually works. |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 8, 2021 14:03:54 GMT
I have no problem with Ardnamurchan going into Argyll and Bute, as it was part of the old Argyll seat before 1983. But I would prefer Caol to be added as well. This would have the added benefit of meaning that the whole of Culloden and Ardersier could go into Inverness, and the whole of Lhanbryde and Fochabers to Moray. For Caol to be added to Argyll, Bute would need to be removed, perhaps to Inverclyde – though that would mean a tri-council seat. Ardnamurchan and Morvern would have been in Argyll, but surely Fort William wouldn't have been? My concerns about splitting the Fort William area would of course be dealt with by your suggestion of adding Caol as well. If removing Bute, I think I'd put it with Arran in the Ayrshire group in spite of where the ferry link goes, not just because of the historical link but because the Clyde islands are likely to have interests in common. No, Fort William wasn't part of Argyll, but for numbers reasons I've chosen to include it as well. Doing so allows the flexibility of removing Bute, as Fort William's electorate on its own is over 4000. Caol's is 3500, so its inclusion would mean that Bute would have to be removed. Point taken about Bute's links with Ayrshire and common island interests, but greater Renfrewshire needs the numbers (and quite badly) whereas Ayrshire doesn't. |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 8, 2021 14:04:43 GMT
Links to various council sites for polling district data (these were the only ones I both needed and could find): Aberdeen www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/council-and-democracy/elections-and-voting/review-polling-districts-and-polling-places, then click on Proposals for Polling Districts and Polling Places Dumfries and Galloway www.dumgal.gov.uk/article/21508/Review-of-Polling-Districts-and-Polling-Places, then click on Download the PP Review Appendix 2 [XLS – 181KB] Edinburgh www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/26661/notice-of-situation-of-polling-stations (not the most user-friendly of sites) Falkirk www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/council-democracy/consultations-surveys/docs/polling-places/review/Polling%20Scheme%20-%20revised%20-%2001%20December%202019.pdf?v=202002240949 Glasgow www.glasgow.gov.uk/article/25230/Situation-of-Polling-Places---UK-Parliamentary-Election-2019, and click on the links for each seat. Highland Google "notice of poll - uk parliamentary elections 2019 ross, skye" and "notice of poll - uk parliamentary elections 2019 inverness", click the top hit and follow the links. Moray www.moray.gov.uk/downloads/file95729.pdf (NB this dates from 2014). Perth and Kinross www.pkc.gov.uk/article/14936/Review-of-Polling-Districts-and-Polling-Places, then click download Polling Place Review – Proposals [159Kb]. Renfrewshire www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/article/11261/2021---Scottish-Parliamentary-election, then go to Notice of situation of poll for Paisley, Renfrewshire South, and Renfrewshire North and West respectively South Lanarkshire Put in “polling places first preference south lanarkshire council” as a search term on Google. There should be a hit that says “Polling Places – First Preference – South Lanarkshire Council”, which is a link to a PDF. Click on it. |
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Post by islington on Apr 8, 2021 14:30:29 GMT
See the below for Dundee. Electorates from 2019. These are proposals so you have to make a leap of faith and assume they were agreed.
Edited to add: Sorry, that was a link for one particular ward. Here's the index for the whole of Dundee.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 8, 2021 16:06:06 GMT
Ardnamurchan and Morvern would have been in Argyll, but surely Fort William wouldn't have been? My concerns about splitting the Fort William area would of course be dealt with by your suggestion of adding Caol as well. If removing Bute, I think I'd put it with Arran in the Ayrshire group in spite of where the ferry link goes, not just because of the historical link but because the Clyde islands are likely to have interests in common. No, Fort William wasn't part of Argyll, but for numbers reasons I've chosen to include it as well. Doing so allows the flexibility of removing Bute, as Fort William's electorate on its own is over 4000. Caol's is 3500, so its inclusion would mean that Bute would have to be removed. Point taken about Bute's links with Ayrshire and common island interests, but greater Renfrewshire needs the numbers (and quite badly) whereas Ayrshire doesn't. No, Renfrewshire does not "need the numbers". Both islington and myself have plans where Greater Renfrewshire and Glasgow, south of the Clyde, account for 6 seats. |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 8, 2021 20:34:16 GMT
No, Fort William wasn't part of Argyll, but for numbers reasons I've chosen to include it as well. Doing so allows the flexibility of removing Bute, as Fort William's electorate on its own is over 4000. Caol's is 3500, so its inclusion would mean that Bute would have to be removed. Point taken about Bute's links with Ayrshire and common island interests, but greater Renfrewshire needs the numbers (and quite badly) whereas Ayrshire doesn't. No, Renfrewshire does not "need the numbers". Both islington and myself have plans where Greater Renfrewshire and Glasgow, south of the Clyde, account for 6 seats. I exaggerated, and your plans for Greater Renfrewshire and south Glasgow, taken on their own, work. But there is still the question of knock-on effects. The Boundary Commission for Scotland tend to prefer small numbers of councils to be grouped together and to split wards to make those figures fit, rather than avoid split wards and cross council boundaries regularly. That's what I've tried to do with my plan, which links Greater Renfrewshire and Glasgow together to make 10 seats. The problem with Greater Renfrewshire and south Glasgow taken together is that there (really!) aren't enough votes in north Glasgow to create four whole seats, which necessarily means incursions into neighbouring authorities. I think that the Commission will try to avoid that if at all possible, given that the two Lanarkshire authorities between them are more or less spot on for 7 seats, and the two Dunbartonshires are within range for 2. (Even if the Dunbartonshire West that results will be horrible beyond belief.) So, no, Renfrewshire and south Glasgow don't need the numbers to work on their own, but they do in this plan! (But as moving Bute in to Greater Renfrewshire would link Greater Renfrewshire and Glasgow with the Highlands and Grampian authorities, I'd rather avoid that as well...) |
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Post by piperdave on Apr 8, 2021 21:16:02 GMT
Central Scotland seats: Stirling: 70,085 Clackmannan and Grangemouth: 75,451 Falkirk: 75,106 Linlithgow: 71,318 Livingston: 75,786 Ward splits: Larbert and Bonnybridge: Larbert goes into C&G, Bonnybridge to Falkirk Broxburn, Uphall and Winchburgh: Winchburgh goes into Linlithgow, the rest to Livingston (Again, there's a discrepancy in numbers between what I have above and what's in the graphic, as I don't know the electorate of Winchburgh. It must be about 2000–2500, based on the population of the place. But even if it's less, the two West Lothian seats should be in range.) The elephant in the room is whether Clackmannan and Grangemouth would be permitted because of the lack of direct road links. If it isn't, then it would be possible to split Stirling North as far as the most easterly bridge over the Forth in that ward (only a few electors would be affected), and then move that territory plus Bannockburn into C&G, move Grangemouth into Falkirk, and move Denny and Banknock into Stirling. The numbers for that would also work. As an aside, the only Falkirk part of the Linlithgow seat, Bo'ness, was historically a West Lothian town anyway. I think I mentioned I was looking at a Clackmannan & Grangemouth seat as well (albeit with Polmont making up the numbers rather than Larbert). So I looked at the Parliamentary Constituencies Act and I can't see anything in the body of the Act or Schedule 2 that says a constituency must be connected by transport links, or even contiguous. So unless I'm missing something, I'm off to do a new plan with district of burghs constituencies!!  |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 8, 2021 21:50:40 GMT
 OK, here's what I've got for Glasgow and surrounding areas. I've grouped Glasgow and Greater Renfrewshire together (10 seats), North and South Lanarkshire together (7 seats) and, through gritted teeth, West and East Dunbartonshire together (2 seats). If there appear to be more wards than you thought there were, that's because of various ward divisions that I've tried out for alternative plans. Where there are ward splits, I'll mention them.
Dunbartonshire West (75,863): West Dunbartonshire, plus Bearsden west of Drymen Road and north of Canniesburn Road. I really dislike this seat, but I'm not sure there's any other way of getting Dunbartonshire West up to the minimum without crossing the Glasgow City boundary. I like the idea of extending West Dunbartonshire into Cardross and the west side of Loch Lomond (Helensburgh and Lomond South), but I suspect that the electorates for those polling districts would come up short. Dunbartonshire East (76,971): the rest of East Dunbartonshire. Split wards: Bearsden North, Bearsden South. There may be a way of avoiding this butchering of Bearsden, but I'll need to try out the figures first.
Cumbernauld and Strathkelvin (70,747): Cumbernauld wards, Kilsyth, Stepps, Moodiesburn. Airdrie and Coatbridge (76,626): 3 x Coatbridge, 3 x Airdrie wards. (There's no iron rule that says that the two Monklands towns need to be in separate seats, and for long enough they weren't.) Bellshill and Shotts (74,958): Thorniewood, Bellshill, Mossend/Holytown, Fortissat, Murdostoun, Motherwell North (a ward that is mostly made up of communities outside Motherwell) and the Forgewood district of Motherwell West (ward split along the railway line). This means that Motherwell isn't all in one seat, which is unfortunate. There may be a way round it if parts of Wishaw ward (Overtown, etc.) can be moved into the seat and the Motherwell territory restored. The electorate is necessarily an estimate as I don't have North Lanarkshire PD electorates to hand.
Hamilton and Motherwell (77,008): Motherwell West (minus Forgewood), Motherwell South East, Wishaw, Hamilton West, Hamilton South and almost all of Hamilton North and East (Ferniegair is moved into Lanark; the ward split takes place on the River Avon). Rutherglen (71,612): 2 x Rutherglen, 2 x Cambuslang, Blantyre, Bothwell/Uddingston. East Kilbride (70,353): 5 x East Kilbride, Avondale, Strathaven and Stonehouse minus Stonehouse PDs. Lanark (69,791): 4 x Clydesdale, Larkhall, Stonehouse PDs of Avondale etc., Ferniegair PD from Hamilton North and East. This seat was a case of finding enough bits to get it up to the minimum size, but Stonehouse and Ferniegair should be enough – just. Split wards: Motherwell West, Hamilton North and East, Avondale etc. (all based on existing polling districts).
Inverclyde (73,071): Inverclyde, plus Bishopton, Bridge of Weir and Langbank (not clear from the image, but that's what it's meant to be).
Paisley and Renfrewshire North (71,765): Erskine, 2 x Renfrew, Paisley East, most of Paisley North West, Cardonald. Paisley and Renfrewshire South (76,162): Paisley South, South West, South East, 2 x Johnstone, Houston and Linwood. Renfrewshire East (72,959): East Renfrewshire. Glasgow South (70,470): Linn, Newlands, Pollok, part of Langside (part of Cathcart, part of Mount Florida, using Hampden Park as the boundary). Glasgow South West (70,427): Govan, Pollokshields, rest of Langside, parts of Southside Central (Govanhill, Laurieston). Glasgow East (70,150): Calton, Shettleston, part of Baillieston south of the railway line, part of East Central (Greenfield/Carntyne), part of Southside Central (Gorbals, Hutchesontown). As north Glasgow doesn't have enough electors on its own for four seats, there needs to be a cross-river seat, and this is it.
Glasgow North East (71,823): North East, Springburn, Dennistoun, part of Baillieston north of railway line (Wellhouse), part of East Central (Riddrie), part of Canal (Possil, Keppochhill). Glasgow North West (71,267): rest of Canal (Milton, Ruchill), Maryhill, Drumchapel, Garscadden, part of Victoria Park west of Crow Road (Jordanhill, Whiteinch). Glasgow Central (69,996): rest of Victoria Park (Broomhill, Thornwood), Partick East/Kelvindale, Hillhead, Anderston. Split wards: Paisley North West, Langside, Southside Central, Baillieston, East Central, Canal, Victoria Park. With the exception of Langside, these all use existing polling districts. I also considered an arrangement that split East Renfrewshire. Here, Barrhead joins Paisley and Renfrewshire South, the rest of East Renfrewshire is joined to Newlands, Cardonald joins Govan, Pollok and part of Pollokshields in a Glasgow South West seat, and the rest of Pollokshields, Langside, Linn and Govanhill form Glasgow South East. A six-seat arrangement for Glasgow would work better than this arrangement, but that would leave Greater Renfrewshire moving into South Lanarkshire, with all sorts of unwanted domino effects. So I've ruled that out. |
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Post by Eastwood on Apr 8, 2021 23:47:07 GMT
OK, here's what I've got for Glasgow and surrounding areas. I've grouped Glasgow and Greater Renfrewshire together (10 seats), North and South Lanarkshire together (7 seats) and, through gritted teeth, West and East Dunbartonshire together (2 seats). If there appear to be more wards than you thought there were, that's because of various ward divisions that I've tried out for alternative plans. Where there are ward splits, I'll mention them. Cumbernauld and Strathkelvin (70,747): Cumbernauld wards, Kilsyth, Stepps, Moodiesburn. Airdrie and Coatbridge (76,626): 3 x Coatbridge, 3 x Airdrie wards. (There's no iron rule that says that the two Monklands towns need to be in separate seats, and for long enough they weren't.) Bellshill and Shotts (74,958): Thorniewood, Bellshill, Mossend/Holytown, Fortissat, Murdostoun, Motherwell North (a ward that is mostly made up of communities outside Motherwell) and the Forgewood district of Motherwell West (ward split along the railway line). This means that Motherwell isn't all in one seat, which is unfortunate. There may be a way round it if parts of Wishaw ward (Overtown, etc.) can be moved into the seat and the Motherwell territory restored. The electorate is necessarily an estimate as I don't have North Lanarkshire PD electorates to hand.
Hamilton and Motherwell (77,008): Motherwell West (minus Forgewood), Motherwell South East, Wishaw, Hamilton West, Hamilton South and almost all of Hamilton North and East (Ferniegair is moved into Lanark; the ward split takes place on the River Avon). Rutherglen (71,612): 2 x Rutherglen, 2 x Cambuslang, Blantyre, Bothwell/Uddingston. East Kilbride (70,353): 5 x East Kilbride, Avondale, Strathaven and Stonehouse minus Stonehouse PDs. Lanark (69,791): 4 x Clydesdale, Larkhall, Stonehouse PDs of Avondale etc., Ferniegair PD from Hamilton North and East. This seat was a case of finding enough bits to get it up to the minimum size, but Stonehouse and Ferniegair should be enough – just. Split wards: Motherwell West, Hamilton North and East, Avondale etc. (all based on existing polling districts).
So I got identical seats as you at Cumbernauld & Strathkelvin, Airdrie & Coatbridge, Rutherglen and East Kilbride (without the split ward). However a better solution to me for the remainder is: Hamilton & South Clydesdale (circa 70,000) 3 x Hamilton, Larkhall, Clydesdale South, Clydesdale East (southern half - Abington, Crawford, Leadhills, Roberton PDs should be just enough) Motherwell (71424) 3 x Motherwell, Bellshill, Thorniewood, Mossend & Holytown Lanarkshire East (circa 75,000) Fortissat, Murdostoun, Wishaw, Clydesdale West, Clydesdale North, Clydesdale East (northern half - remaining 15 PDs) This has the advantage of having whole seats for Hamilton and Motherwell, there is only has one seat that is split across North and South Lanarkshire and only 1 ward has to be split. Lanarkshire East is a bit of a leftovers seat but Wishaw and Carluke have a lot in common and Biggar, Shotts, Lanark are all small towns in the Lanarkshire hinterland that look partly towards Edinburgh and partly towards Glasgow so for me it has a community of interest that works as a seat. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 9, 2021 14:07:33 GMT
I'm personally of the view that combining East Dunbartonshire and West Dunbartonshire is really appallingly ugly, and whilst I can see the case for combining Clackmannanshire with northern Falkirk, I don't think it's a particular good option. So I've worked up an alternative option using the following regional groupings: - Perth & Kinross, Fife, Clackmannanshire: 6
- Dundee, Angus, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Moray, Highland, Argyll & Bute, West Dunbartonshire: 13
- Stirling: 1
- East Dunbartonshire, Glasgow north of the Clyde, South Lanarkshire, North Lanarkshire, Falkirk, West Lothian: 15
- Glasgow south of the Clyde, Renfrewshire, Inverclyde: 5
- East Renfrewshire: 1
- Ayrshire: 4
- Dumfries & Galloway, Borders, East Lothian: 4
- Edinburgh: 5
- Midlothian: 1
Some of these groups are more natural than others and in particular the map relies upon the Lanarkshire group having seats at the top of the range to make up for other seats being smaller than average, but overall I'm reasonably happy with it. Group 1 St Andrews & Kinross (66840 before split) - adds Kinross. If you like, the present split of Leven, Kennoway and Largo can be maintained, but that appears to split Leven and Largo on its own is probably sufficient. Glenrothes (79547 before split) - gains Lochgelly Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath (74637 before split) - loses Lochgelly, would additionally need to lose Inverkeithing, or possibly Kelty Dunfermline (68231 before split) - adding Inverkeithing would maintain the present boundary, but if it's too large then Kelty looks like a plausible alternative Ochil & South Perthshire (72408) - crosses the Tay to add Carse of Gowrie. Contrary to a comment by islington, there is a bridge. However, if that's too ugly for you then a slight modification of existing ward split of Strathtay would work. |
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Post by aidanthomson on Apr 9, 2021 17:26:00 GMT
I'm personally of the view that combining East Dunbartonshire and West Dunbartonshire is really appallingly ugly, As someone who grew up in that area, I'm no fan of it myself - certainly not of the division that I had in my plan - and my linking the two authorities in their entirety was, as I said last night, through gritted teeth, and based largely on a desire to minimize the number of grouped authorities (outside northern Scotland, at least). But there's no point in doing that if the result is the creation of monstrosities, so I'll rethink my approach to the area. That said, the Commission may still want to set in stone a link between West Dunbartonshire and East Dunbartonshire, based on precedents (Clydebank & Milngavie, etc.) and a reluctance to split Helensburgh. If so, then a possible counter-argument might be to minimize the amount of Bearsden that is added. For instance, Baljaffray (the area north of Duntocher Road and west of Stockiemuir Road) almost certainly has enough electors to get a Dunbartonshire West seat into range. That would potentially allow for a link elsewhere with Lanarkshire, albeit by maintaining the existing division of Kirkintilloch. Re St Andrews & Kinross, Largo on its own should be sufficient. I'd be surprised if it were less than 20% of the ward electorate. Further west (and I was struck by this with my own plan), it looks like the former Fife coalfield is going to have to be split, as there doesn't appear to be any way of having Cowdenbeath, Lochgelly, Kelty, Ballingry and Cardenden in the one seat without splitting Kirkcaldy, Glenrothes or Dunfermline. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 9, 2021 17:30:41 GMT
Group 2 Dundee West (69257 before split) - I can't find any whole ward solution based solely in Dundee that works, but this is as close as you can get. Add a few streets from East End ward and it should be fine Dundee East (72750 before splits) - compared to present seat, loses Maryfield and gains Kirriemuir and Dean Angus East & Mearns (67823 before splits) - if there's enough left over from Dundee East after Dundee West gets up to quota, then Kirriemuir & Dean is probably the best ward to split. If not, maybe the southern half of Banchory & Mid Deeside? Kincardine & Deeside (76134) - the current Aberdeenshire West & Kincardine, plus Lower Deeside and Huntly and minus Mearns ward Aberdeen South (69739) - this is a no-split map, but I suspect you'd get a better map if you put Tillydrone/Seaton back in North and split Midstocket/Rosemount instead Aberdeen North (71776) - now extends north of the Don Gordon & Buchan South (74603) - you can probably get away with Gordon, or if you wish to be irritating I guess you could call it Garioch and Formartine? Banff & Buchan Coast (69802) - assuming you're allowed to reuse Scottish Parliament names Elgin and Nairn (76914) - for the purists, Elgin, Nairn & Speyside  Caithness, Sutherland and Ross (65239 before split) - as the name implies, I'm suggesting Wester Ross should be added as well as the Black Isle Inverness & Skye (77000 before split) - I should note I haven't checked these seats fall within the size limit Argyll & Bute (70213) - loses Helensburgh South & Lomond, gains Fort William & Ardnamurchan West Dunbartonshire (73473) - gains Helensburgh South & Lomond I'd be amenable to a ward split to reunite Helensburgh, and also to putting Caol & Mallaig in with Argyll & Bute, but unfortunately I think that's an either/or.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 9, 2021 17:53:59 GMT
East Dunbartonshire and Glasgow, North of the Clyde as 5 seats. Bearsden South gets annexed to make the numbers work.  |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 9, 2021 18:25:15 GMT
Dumfries & Galloway, Scottish Borders, East Lothian, Midlothian as 5 seats.  |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 9, 2021 18:50:36 GMT
North Lanarkshire and South Lanarkshire as 7 seats  |
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Post by islington on Apr 9, 2021 19:54:53 GMT
North Lanarkshire and South Lanarkshire as 7 seats That is a brilliant plan in itself.
It leaves you to get five seats into Glasgow north of the Clyde plus E Duns, and there's at least one non-split way of doing that.
But isn't all this going to leave you with Edinburgh/WLothian/Falkirk = 8.45?
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