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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 13:09:08 GMT
Homophonous with "Siren". Nobody bothers with the other bit I'm a 'Sissiter' man myself, but this is my whole point. We miss out on all this with boring old 'S Cotswold'.
There was a young lady of Cirencester Whose gentleman friend came to virencester ...
Edited to add: Hope you're feeling better, BTW.
Locally, it's virtually always Ciren now. I'm not sure I've ever heard Sissister although I'm aware of it as a possible pronunciation. I am doing better, thanks. Home dialysis took ages to work properly and then the line got infected and had to come out. But I've got a pre-op clinic on Wednesday and then if all goes well the transplant scheduled for 16th December. Which also means I should be back to uni for my final half-year by January with a bit of luck |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 28, 2022 13:36:07 GMT
I am doing better, thanks. Home dialysis took ages to work properly and then the line got infected and had to come out. But I've got a pre-op clinic on Wednesday and then if all goes well the transplant scheduled for 16th December. Which also means I should be back to uni for my final half-year by January with a bit of luck All the best with that. It's a huge operation, but a transplant is genuinely life-changing and you're young enough that that means something. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 14:02:15 GMT
Gloucestershire is a horrible mess that's going to get worse with every review unless precedent is pissed on and then burned at stake (and not coming out too great if you do), but not knowing the place at all I can't see what else is wrong with Wiltshire. Other than "too many people from Cirencester complained about the reasonable name of their constituency" of course. I presume they want it called 'Cirencester' in which case I support them, if only because of all the fun we'll have arguing about how it's pronounced. How else do people pronounce ‘Sirensester’? |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 28, 2022 14:13:36 GMT
The whole set of proposals involving Wiltshire are a pathetic joke. I wouldn't bother tinkering just with a small part of Calne Gloucestershire is a horrible mess that's going to get worse with every review unless precedent is pissed on and then burned at stake (and not coming out too great if you do), but not knowing the place at all I can't see what else is wrong with Wiltshire. Other than "too many people from Cirencester complained about the reasonable name of their constituency" of course. I must recommend that the pissing is delayed until the burning at the stake has been completed, or you will have Hell's own job getting the faggots to burn? |
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Post by islington on Nov 28, 2022 14:13:52 GMT
I presume they want it called 'Cirencester' in which case I support them, if only because of all the fun we'll have arguing about how it's pronounced. How else do people pronounce ‘Sirensester’? In addition to my usual pronunciation, Sissiter, which I use simply because my late father once told me that was how to pronounce it, I have heard Siren, Sissister and Sister.
Plus you are right, there are some eccentric people that pronounce it as spelt but where's the fun in that?
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 28, 2022 14:15:18 GMT
Gloucestershire is a horrible mess that's going to get worse with every review unless precedent is pissed on and then burned at stake (and not coming out too great if you do), but not knowing the place at all I can't see what else is wrong with Wiltshire. Other than "too many people from Cirencester complained about the reasonable name of their constituency" of course. I must recommend that the pissing is delayed until the burning at the stake has been completed, or you will have Hell's own job getting the faggots to burn? And you might singe the King of Spain's beard. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 28, 2022 14:24:43 GMT
Gloucestershire is a horrible mess that's going to get worse with every review unless precedent is pissed on and then burned at stake (and not coming out too great if you do), but not knowing the place at all I can't see what else is wrong with Wiltshire. Other than "too many people from Cirencester complained about the reasonable name of their constituency" of course. I presume they want it called 'Cirencester' in which case I support them, if only because of all the fun we'll have arguing about how it's pronounced. Oh! You Sissy! You are awful. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 14:25:15 GMT
I am doing better, thanks. Home dialysis took ages to work properly and then the line got infected and had to come out. But I've got a pre-op clinic on Wednesday and then if all goes well the transplant scheduled for 16th December. Which also means I should be back to uni for my final half-year by January with a bit of luck All the best with that. It's a huge operation, but a transplant is genuinely life-changing and you're young enough that that means something. Thank you. In a sense I've been quite lucky compared to most because I have been rushed through the process somewhat - normally it's about 6 months to get on the waiting list then 18 months to two years on the list, whereas I will have my transplant 11 months almost to the day since the problem was identified (though having a living donor is part of that). The flipside of that is that I've got what is essentially a lifelong illness at 22 rather than the more common 60 or 70 |
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Post by islington on Nov 28, 2022 14:34:54 GMT
All the best with that. It's a huge operation, but a transplant is genuinely life-changing and you're young enough that that means something. Thank you. In a sense I've been quite lucky compared to most because I have been rushed through the process somewhat - normally it's about 6 months to get on the waiting list then 18 months to two years on the list, whereas I will have my transplant 11 months almost to the day since the problem was identified (though having a living donor is part of that). The flipside of that is that I've got what is essentially a lifelong illness at 22 rather than the more common 60 or 70 I commiserate; living with it may not be easy but it beats the hell out of dying of it.
Good luck to you.
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 28, 2022 14:50:07 GMT
Gloucestershire is a horrible mess that's going to get worse with every review unless precedent is pissed on and then burned at stake (and not coming out too great if you do), but not knowing the place at all I can't see what else is wrong with Wiltshire. Other than "too many people from Cirencester complained about the reasonable name of their constituency" of course. I must recommend that the pissing is delayed until the burning at the stake has been completed, or you will have Hell's own job getting the faggots to burn? the smoke will serve as a warning to other bad precedents elsewhere. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 28, 2022 15:00:55 GMT
I presume they want it called 'Cirencester' in which case I support them, if only because of all the fun we'll have arguing about how it's pronounced. How else do people pronounce ‘Sirensester’? I grew up amongst people (family included) who always referred to it as Sis-Sis-Ter and so did I until I saw the battle to be lost. If it had meant more to me or I had any connections to it, I might well have per-sis-is-ted with the old, but it was not worth it as it hardly ever arose in conversation. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 15:34:36 GMT
How else do people pronounce ‘Sirensester’? In addition to my usual pronunciation, Sissiter, which I use simply because my late father once told me that was how to pronounce it, I have heard Siren, Sissister and Sister.
Plus you are right, there are some eccentric people that pronounce it as spelt but where's the fun in that?
Ah. To me that just sounds like someone from Wakefield calling it Wakey or Wackyfield. Or as I like to call it, with an ironic reference to how the council pretends it is, ‘the centre of the universe,’ and particularly the artistic capital of the north. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 28, 2022 15:39:01 GMT
I don't think it's worth a ward split, even if it would work. I can't see an easy solution involving just the Melksham and Chippenham seats. The seats are on the small side so there's limited room for manoeuvre.
If you throw S Cotswold in as well, this is possible and not too bad: Even if the revised scheme is adopted, I want the 'Melksham & Devizes' seat renamed simply 'Devizes'. There has been a constituency of this name, without a break, since 1295. Such hallowed tradition should not lightly be cast aside.
Edited to add: Sorry, I failed to shade in the Kingswood ward of Stroud but I meant that to remain in S Cotsworld. The numbers are: S Cotswold 73370, Chippenham 72078, Devizes 70888.
There's a much less disruptive solution: Calne South with the rest of Calne; By Brook into Melksham & Devizes; either Nailsworth or Wootton-under-Edge into S Cotswold. I hesitate to call it a good solution, but it's the sort of quick fix a boundary commission might plausibly accept. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 28, 2022 19:15:03 GMT
I don't think it's worth a ward split, even if it would work. I can't see an easy solution involving just the Melksham and Chippenham seats. The seats are on the small side so there's limited room for manoeuvre.
If you throw S Cotswold in as well, this is possible and not too bad: Even if the revised scheme is adopted, I want the 'Melksham & Devizes' seat renamed simply 'Devizes'. There has been a constituency of this name, without a break, since 1295. Such hallowed tradition should not lightly be cast aside.
Edited to add: Sorry, I failed to shade in the Kingswood ward of Stroud but I meant that to remain in S Cotsworld. The numbers are: S Cotswold 73370, Chippenham 72078, Devizes 70888.
There's a much less disruptive solution: Calne South with the rest of Calne; By Brook into Melksham & Devizes; either Nailsworth or Wootton-under-Edge into S Cotswold. I hesitate to call it a good solution, but it's the sort of quick fix a boundary commission might plausibly accept. the Wootton transfer could be sold as a feature not a bug - Kingswood ceases to be orphaned and the report identifies Wootton as a plausible candidate for exclusion from Stroud. By Brook though... |
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Post by swindonlad on Nov 28, 2022 19:59:29 GMT
Gloucestershire is a horrible mess that's going to get worse with every review unless precedent is pissed on and then burned at stake (and not coming out too great if you do), but not knowing the place at all I can't see what else is wrong with Wiltshire. Other than "too many people from Cirencester complained about the reasonable name of their constituency" of course. There was no need to cross the boundary between Wiltshire and Gloucestershire whatsoever. Several members of this forum submitted decent plans which avoided doing that (and also the consequent crossing of the Gloucestershire/Somerset boundary). My own proposals kept all the Wiltishire seats virtually unchanged with just a couple of ward splits. The Cotswold North and Cotswold South formulation is utterly fuckwitted but isn't even the worst part of the proposals for this area. The South Cotswold constituency is one of the best possible options for a cross boundary constituency as there's significant links between the northern parts of Wiltshire & Cirencester, e.g. towns & villages such as Cricklade looks towards Cirencester more than Swindon, I grew up in North Wiltshire & went to school in Cirencester. Only issue for me is the orphan ward from Stroud |
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Post by swindonlad on Nov 28, 2022 20:03:01 GMT
How else do people pronounce ‘Sirensester’? In addition to my usual pronunciation, Sissiter, which I use simply because my late father once told me that was how to pronounce it, I have heard Siren, Sissister and Sister. Plus you are right, there are some eccentric people that pronounce it as spelt but where's the fun in that?
I've not heard it called Sissister for years, ok decades, but that's a very traditional name that wouldn't be recognised by most residents. Many just refer to it as Ciren. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 28, 2022 20:06:35 GMT
There was no need to cross the boundary between Wiltshire and Gloucestershire whatsoever. Several members of this forum submitted decent plans which avoided doing that (and also the consequent crossing of the Gloucestershire/Somerset boundary). My own proposals kept all the Wiltishire seats virtually unchanged with just a couple of ward splits. The Cotswold North and Cotswold South formulation is utterly fuckwitted but isn't even the worst part of the proposals for this area. The South Cotswold constituency is one of the best possible options for a cross boundary constituency as there's significant links between the northern parts of Wiltshire & Cirencester, e.g. towns & villages such as Cricklade looks towards Cirencester more than Swindon, I grew up in North Wiltshire & went to school in Cirencester. Only issue for me is the orphan ward from Stroud That may be well but a cross county seat is not necessary here. In my opinion, there should be a presumption against crossing county boundaries except where the numbers render it absolutely necessary. I have accepted the necessity of a cross-county seat affecting my own Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire (though technically Hertfordshire could sustain 12 whole seats on its own). In this case it absolutely not necessary and the creation of this Cotswold Soouth seat, however coherent it may be on its own terms, has adverse affects throughout the rest of Wiltshire and Gloucestershire. |
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Post by swindonlad on Nov 28, 2022 20:26:37 GMT
The South Cotswold constituency is one of the best possible options for a cross boundary constituency as there's significant links between the northern parts of Wiltshire & Cirencester, e.g. towns & villages such as Cricklade looks towards Cirencester more than Swindon, I grew up in North Wiltshire & went to school in Cirencester. Only issue for me is the orphan ward from Stroud That may be well but a cross county seat is not necessary here. In my opinion, there should be a presumption against crossing county boundaries except where the numbers render it absolutely necessary. I have accepted the necessity of a cross-county seat affecting my own Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire (though technically Hertfordshire could sustain 12 whole seats on its own). In this case it absolutely not necessary and the creation of this Cotswold Soouth seat, however coherent it may be on its own terms, has adverse affects throughout the rest of Wiltshire and Gloucestershire. Gloucestershire has to be merged with another county, with the Boundary Commission still recognising Avon there's no choice but to add it to Wiltshire. I'm not defending this, but, it's where we are. If they're going for a historic boundary they may as well have gone back to the traditional pre 1373 counties. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 28, 2022 21:08:06 GMT
It's ridiculous that the boundary commission 'recognise' Avon which has now not existed for longer than it ever existed in the first place. But even allowing them that weird indulgence, there is still a choice. Obviously they can pair Gloucestershire with Avon for 18 seats.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 21:34:35 GMT
However the links between Citen and North Wiltshire are much, much stronger than those between S Glos and the southern end of Stroud District
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