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Post by johnloony on Nov 9, 2023 13:43:10 GMT
I met my MP again this morning at the memorial meeting for the anniversary of the Croydon Cram Trash. I updated her by telling her that the department responsible is the LUetc, and that Ben Lake has put in a question.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 9, 2023 14:03:32 GMT
Why don't you try emailing the King to ask when he next intends to hold a Privy Council meeting? This is a question best asked in person. When I met the now-King then-Prince in 2012 I forgot to ask him. |
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 10, 2023 13:59:13 GMT
I almost forgot about this till it popped up in my work Mailbox Calendar for tomorrow. I'm attending an online meeting on Friday (with over 100 others I believe) with one of the HoC Clerk Assistants. It will be quite dry stuff about how HMRC interacts with HoC etc and I only get to 'attend' because my boss and her boss really werent interested  If I get the chance I will drop in a question about the timetable etc for the new boundaries. She may not know (or not wish to discuss , as it would be out of scope really) but worth asking 
So, I asked my question, which was very diplomatically batted away
I then asked for a follow-up email response, thinking that a reply "outside of the room" might get a better response however the key part of the reply was simply:
"..it's not something that we would be made aware of, rather, it will be handled by the Privy Council Secretariat. However, it will likely be laid before Parliament before too long for the usual secondary legislation scrutiny process."
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 10, 2023 16:19:37 GMT
I think we're the only part of the Internet who cares this much, and that includes the Boundary Commissioners and most Privy Councillors
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 10, 2023 16:52:46 GMT
I think we're the only part of the Internet who cares this much, and that includes the Boundary Commissioners and most Privy Councillors Well I think the Commissioners care, they'll be tearing their hair out if we go to Zombie Review 2 Part 3: Electric Boogaloo. |
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Post by manchesterman on Nov 10, 2023 17:18:05 GMT
Had a little 5-minute fun quiz at the end of our session; cant remember a couple of the questions/answers but the 2 I do recall are these, which you can have a dabble at.. On average, how many pieces of Secondary legislation are passed each year? A) 500-1000 B) 1000-1500 C) 1500-2000 D) 2000-3000 Which of these celebrities has NOT appeared to give evidence before a Select Committee? A) Marcus Rashford B) David Beckham C) Katie Price D) Angelina Jolie Remember, it's only a bit of fun |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 10, 2023 17:48:50 GMT
I think we're the only part of the Internet who cares this much, and that includes the Boundary Commissioners and most Privy Councillors Well I think the Commissioners care, they'll be tearing their hair out if we go to Zombie Review 2 Part 3: Electric Boogaloo. That's a fair point. If they're asked again to start from scratch I imagine they'd go on strike. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 16, 2023 0:30:59 GMT
From the Court Circular:
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 16, 2023 14:54:42 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 16, 2023 15:16:41 GMT
Genuinely breathing a sigh of relief. Now, next, general election!! |
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Post by ilerda on Nov 16, 2023 17:09:34 GMT
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY?!?!
CAN THEY DO NOTHING RIGHT?!?!
THOSE EVIL TORIES TRYING TO RIG THE SYSTEM!!*
GENERAL ELECTION MUST BE IMMINENT!!
*conveniently ignoring the fact that the new boundaries are actually better for the Tories than the old one
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Nov 16, 2023 17:21:26 GMT
As yet, how do we know that? Surely, until the relevant order is published, all we know is that, at a Privy Council meeting attended by the King, nine MPs (all of them Conservative, six of them clearly being there because one or more other items of business required their presence to swear an oath relating either to Privy Council membership or to a senior Cabinet post) and two clerical staff, a Statutory Instrument with a title that strongly suggests that it is to do with boundary changes was approved. We probably have very good reason to believe that we know the contents of that particular SI (or at least its effects, in considerable detail) - but until publication can be confirmed, it could in principle be a sheet of paper which, apart from the titles as shown on page 4 of the minutes, is entirely blank. |
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Post by greenhert on Nov 16, 2023 21:05:06 GMT
When will the order be ready? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 16, 2023 21:28:32 GMT
Probably only a few days at most.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 17, 2023 11:39:36 GMT
*conveniently ignoring the fact that the new boundaries are actually better for the Tories than the old one Well one of the main charges against this government is that it is incompetent, so that doesn't prove anything on its own |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Nov 17, 2023 14:25:19 GMT
Now all we need are the notionals to go with them. |
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Post by parlconst on Nov 20, 2023 14:25:59 GMT
We now have the order, effective from 29 November 2023: |
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 20, 2023 15:06:26 GMT
Still time for Sunak to call a snap election on the old boundaries!
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 20, 2023 15:24:37 GMT
Is "The area of polling district BHC is shown as the area marked “4” on the map of the Ashfield constituency produced by the Boundary Commission for England, which was published on 28th June 2023 at: boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/2023-review/2023-review-volume-three-maps/page/2/." really a suitable way to describe a constituency boundary in legislation? Particularly as said map is in low resolution with very thick boundary lines making it impossible to see exactly what is included. Compare with "The “Midstocket area” is that part of ward 7 (Midstocket/Rosemount) to the south of a line starting from the point on the ward boundary in the centre of the junction between Argyll Place, Beechgrove Terrace, Rosemount Place and Westfield Road, and then drawn in an easterly direction along the centre of Rosemount Place to a point in the centre of the junction of Rosemount Place and Esslemont Avenue; then in a southerly direction along the centre of Esslemont Avenue to a point in the centre of the junction of Esslemont Avenue, Carden Place, Rose Street and Skene Street; then in an easterly direction along the centre of Skene Street to a point in the centre of the junction of Skene Street, Lower Denburn and Woolmanhill; then in an easterly then northerly direction along the centre of Woolmanhill to the ward boundary." from the Boundary Commission for Scotland which is much clearer and unambiguous. |
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 20, 2023 15:39:46 GMT
Is "The area of polling district BHC is shown as the area marked “4” on the map of the Ashfield constituency produced by the Boundary Commission for England, which was published on 28th June 2023 at: boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/2023-review/2023-review-volume-three-maps/page/2/." really a suitable way to describe a constituency boundary in legislation? Particularly as said map is in low resolution with very thick boundary lines making it impossible to see exactly what is included. Compare with "The “Midstocket area” is that part of ward 7 (Midstocket/Rosemount) to the south of a line starting from the point on the ward boundary in the centre of the junction between Argyll Place, Beechgrove Terrace, Rosemount Place and Westfield Road, and then drawn in an easterly direction along the centre of Rosemount Place to a point in the centre of the junction of Rosemount Place and Esslemont Avenue; then in a southerly direction along the centre of Esslemont Avenue to a point in the centre of the junction of Esslemont Avenue, Carden Place, Rose Street and Skene Street; then in an easterly direction along the centre of Skene Street to a point in the centre of the junction of Skene Street, Lower Denburn and Woolmanhill; then in an easterly then northerly direction along the centre of Woolmanhill to the ward boundary." from the Boundary Commission for Scotland which is much clearer and unambiguous. The maps, If they are specifically referred to, which is invariably the case, are all that matter though. We had a disparity with local election wards here in Pompey where the map is referred to in the order, and despite the fact that the written description of the ward maps don't tally, because the map is specifically referred to in the order as a reference, it takes precedence. |
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