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Post by timmullen on Nov 23, 2024 10:12:25 GMT
It looks like Harris will still finish behind in votes, but Trump may end up with less than the psychologically important 50% of the votes The count that this Canadian partisan hack is showing isn’t the one used by most sources, who have Trump on 50.06%. The current AP tally is exactly 50% to 48.4%, but with a chunk of California still to report it’ll almost certainly be marginally under 50, probably in the 49.7-49.9 range. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 23, 2024 10:13:23 GMT
It looks like Harris will still finish behind in votes, but Trump may end up with less than the psychologically important 50% of the votes The count that this Canadian partisan hack is showing isn’t the one used by most sources, who have Trump on 50.06%. Most of the sources I see have Trump just dipping below 50% now and that was fully expected once the votes from California were all in (or nearly so). Of course he will still be ahead of Harris on the popular vote (not that it really matters either way) and few expected before the election that he would manage that even if he did win the EC. Of course 'Canadian partisan hacks' are a phenomenon we are all too familiar with here on this forum |
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Post by cathyc on Nov 23, 2024 10:15:53 GMT
But I don't support sources owned by Paul Marshall, GBNews, Elon Musk, The Murdochs, Ike Perlmutter, the Barclays, the Russian state, the Rothermeres, Putin, Donald Trump, Robert Herring or Jan Koum. I do try. DC Thomson? I thought I'd included them by saying GBNews. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Nov 23, 2024 10:21:02 GMT
Over 2022/24 Republicans had a pretty good shot at a Senate supermajority, up against a historically unpopular administration, which they ended up not getting close to. Yet I see precious little reflection from the right over how they blew it so catastrophically Trump as President, a comfortable Senate Majority that should withstand mid term losses in 2026, a House Majority (albeit a narrow one) and a conservative supreme court for a generation. Damn, the right really blew it. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 23, 2024 10:24:33 GMT
The count that this Canadian partisan hack is showing isn’t the one used by most sources, who have Trump on 50.06%. The current AP tally is exactly 50% to 48.4%, but with a chunk of California still to report it’ll almost certainly be marginally under 50, probably in the 49.7-49.9 range. He's on 49.86% at the moment. |
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Post by rcronald on Nov 23, 2024 10:25:16 GMT
The count that this Canadian partisan hack is showing isn’t the one used by most sources, who have Trump on 50.06%. The current AP tally is exactly 50% to 48.4%, but with a chunk of California still to report it’ll almost certainly be marginally under 50, probably in the 49.7-49.9 range. the remaining 200K vote in CA isn’t really that blue (provincial ballots in CA lean GOP), I think that the range is 50.05-49.85. (Which is roughly the same as your prediction) I’m just annoyed with this specific account, because it sort of pretends to be an American version of Europe Elects, but is just a partisan account. |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 23, 2024 10:25:44 GMT
Over 2022/24 Republicans had a pretty good shot at a Senate supermajority, up against a historically unpopular administration, which they ended up not getting close to. Yet I see precious little reflection from the right over how they blew it so catastrophically Trump as President, a comfortable Senate Majority that should withstand mid term losses in 2026, a House Majority (albeit a narrow one) and a conservative supreme court for a generation. Damn, the right really blew it. Indeed. If that's a defeat, it's a rather underwhelming one. |
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Post by rcronald on Nov 23, 2024 10:25:52 GMT
The current AP tally is exactly 50% to 48.4%, but with a chunk of California still to report it’ll almost certainly be marginally under 50, probably in the 49.7-49.9 range. He's on 49.86% at the moment. Cook counts differently than AP, which counts the traditional way. |
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Post by rcronald on Nov 23, 2024 10:29:38 GMT
Btw, I’m surprised that no one seems to mention Trump’s nomination of Scott Bessent, considering that he was the one who advised Soros to bet against the Pound….
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Post by jimboo2017 on Nov 23, 2024 10:31:34 GMT
I thought I'd included them by saying GBNews. AH, was unaware of the link, I find it amusing The Herald (Glasgow) and The National are from the same stable |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 23, 2024 10:31:37 GMT
But I don't support sources owned by Paul Marshall, GBNews, Elon Musk, The Murdochs, Ike Perlmutter, the Barclays, the Russian state, the Rothermeres, Putin, Donald Trump, Robert Herring or Jan Koum. I do try. DC Thomson? Well apart from the Dandy and Beano, they also publish "Commando" magazine, the UK's longest running 'war' magazine. I remember Woolworths used to stock loads of them.
It's where thousands of teenage boys learnt the words "Gott in Himmel!" "Kamerad, kamerad!" and of course "Banzai!".
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 23, 2024 10:59:34 GMT
I thought I'd included them by saying GBNews. AH, was unaware of the link, I find it amusing The Herald (Glasgow) and The National are from the same stable Ooh @'jimboo2017 ! You may have broken a Forum protocol in failing to use the prescribed 'hilarious'? |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 23, 2024 11:09:59 GMT
You can carry on supporting the billionaire-backed and state-backed MSM if you like As opposed to the likes of you, who fawn over the almost literal trillionaire Musk. |
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Post by timmullen on Nov 23, 2024 11:10:00 GMT
Well apart from the Dandy and Beano, they also publish "Commando" magazine, the UK's longest running 'war' magazine. I remember Woolworths used to stock loads of them.
It's where thousands of teenage boys learnt the words "Gott in Himmel!" "Kamerad, kamerad!" and of course "Banzai!".
Do they still do The Sunday Post newspaper? I can remember my dad helping me write a strong letter when I was 10/11 and they were going woke and trying to ban Tom and Jerry for being too violent. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 23, 2024 11:18:49 GMT
This ignores the fact that the SSM has been shown to be subsidised and funded by the Russians via shadowy middle companies such as Tenet Media. So that far right "citizen journalists" like Tim Pool, David Rubin and Benny Johnson get sponsored to spout their crap and the grotesque Alex Jones declares Infowars bankrupt rather than paying the money he owes. You can carry on supporting the billionaire-backed and state-backed MSM if you like As opposed to alternative news sites which are backed by dark money and shadowy sources from enemy regimes one assumes. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 23, 2024 11:43:57 GMT
Well apart from the Dandy and Beano, they also publish "Commando" magazine, the UK's longest running 'war' magazine. I remember Woolworths used to stock loads of them.
It's where thousands of teenage boys learnt the words "Gott in Himmel!" "Kamerad, kamerad!" and of course "Banzai!".
Me and school friend wrote a song consisting of various phrases like that (Mutter Hilf, Englander schweinhund, Feldwebel etc etc) and put it to the tune of Men of Harlech. As you do.. |
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Post by iain on Nov 23, 2024 11:44:43 GMT
Trump as President, a comfortable Senate Majority that should withstand mid term losses in 2026, a House Majority (albeit a narrow one) and a conservative supreme court for a generation. Damn, the right really blew it. Indeed. If that's a defeat, it's a rather underwhelming one. Of course. But a certain right-leaning contributor I was replying to was also determined that 2020 was a defeat (at least a moral one) for Democrats, and that view found some currency more widely. We are in a not dissimilar position now. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Nov 23, 2024 11:45:16 GMT
The point is that no news organisation, be it main stream or alternative, should be considered entirely trustworthy or unbiased. It is important to consume a variety of media and to understand their biases.
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Post by aargauer on Nov 23, 2024 11:48:16 GMT
Exactly. Understand your enemy, and especially those who could be your friends, but are currently not.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 23, 2024 11:55:00 GMT
There's no way on earth that I'm going to subject myself to the ignorant hatred of Fox News, the closed minded weaponised nostalgia of GBNews, the extreme angry everything of Talk TV, or any of the rest of it. They're not news channels, they're biased propaganda sewer pipes.
I read the Guardian, I watch BBC News, and that's the end of it.
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