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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 17, 2020 11:34:17 GMT
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 17, 2020 11:36:27 GMT
I don't think the people want a new election. They'd just like the one they just had honestly declared, and the result honoured. |
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Post by WJ on Aug 17, 2020 11:39:34 GMT
I love to give people like this the opportunity to live in Belarus for a year.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Aug 17, 2020 12:01:41 GMT
I love to give people like this the opportunity to live in Belarus for a year. It pissed me off on the night the protests kicked off when Americans on Twitter were like "Solidarity with Bealrus! We're going through the exact same thing here!". Arseholes. |
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Post by johng on Aug 17, 2020 15:59:44 GMT
So Lukashenko says he has to be killed to leave office. It feels like there's a sense of Romania 1989 in the air.
Now this is awkward! The assembled workers at a tractor factory calling for Lukashenko to leave. His face and body language is just incredible. According to what I have seen on Twitter, bosses were told to pick the most loyal and compliant to watch too.
What's most incredible is a state-owned channel decided to broadcast it.
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Post by manchesterman on Aug 17, 2020 17:25:15 GMT
The ticker tape says "Alexander Lukashenko answers questions at MZKT factory". I bet he does! They have a lot of 'Question Time/Any questions' etc in Belarus!
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 17, 2020 20:05:46 GMT
As mentioned by johng, here is old Nicolae in 1989. Something I'd never noticed is that the old bat Elena starts screaming "silence!" at the crowd as if they are naughty children. The fun starts around 2:33. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 17, 2020 20:10:49 GMT
Vremya, Russia's flagship news programme, showed the crowd chanting for him to go. And showed him ranting at a punter. He's toast.
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Post by manchesterman on Aug 17, 2020 21:27:22 GMT
As mentioned by johng , here is old Nicolae in 1989. Something I'd never noticed is that the old bat Elena starts screaming "silence!" at the crowd as if they are naughty children. The fun starts around 2:33. |
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Post by johnloony on Aug 18, 2020 16:02:48 GMT
As mentioned by johng, here is old Nicolae in 1989. Something I'd never noticed is that the old bat Elena starts screaming "silence!" at the crowd as if they are naughty children. The fun starts around 2:33. There's not just ordinary booing or heckling. It sounds as if there was a kerfuffle of some sort going on down on the ground. It would be fascinating if we could go back in time and film it from all angles; perhaps there was some sort of fight or panic or confusion in the crowd which contributed to the developing situation. Perhaps the crowd were afraid they were going to be shot at, or confused that they weren't being shot at. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Aug 18, 2020 20:29:46 GMT
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Post by johng on Aug 18, 2020 21:25:58 GMT
This really would be laughable if such atrocities weren't being carried out.
Here's an old electoral poster a friend of mine has shared on Facebook. 'The younger generation chooses Alexander Lukashenko' the headline state. It continues, 'The era of septuagenarian rulers is over. Belarus needs new people and a new politics'. He wasn't wrong.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 18, 2020 21:27:29 GMT
This really would be laughable if such atrocities weren't being carried out.
Here's an old electoral poster a friend of mine has shared on Facebook. 'The younger generation chooses Alexander Lukashenko' the headline state. It continues, 'The era of septuagenarian rulers is over. Belarus needs new people and a new politics'. He wasn't wrong.
Apart from the moustache he reminds me of the Gregor Fisher character in the Hamlet advert. |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 19, 2020 11:47:43 GMT
As mentioned by johng, here is old Nicolae in 1989. Something I'd never noticed is that the old bat Elena starts screaming "silence!" at the crowd as if they are naughty children. The fun starts around 2:33. There's not just ordinary booing or heckling. It sounds as if there was a kerfuffle of some sort going on down on the ground. It would be fascinating if we could go back in time and film it from all angles; perhaps there was some sort of fight or panic or confusion in the crowd which contributed to the developing situation. Perhaps the crowd were afraid they were going to be shot at, or confused that they weren't being shot at. I recall somebody (it may well have been you) bringing this up on here a few years ago. A bit later, I had a look on YouTube and found some other footage of that speech that wasn't filmed in the same way as the above that we have become familiar with. It clearly showed major restiveness in the crowds, banners being thrown down and trampled on, and so forth. Unfortunately the commentaries were in Romanian so I couldn't understand it  |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 19, 2020 12:22:35 GMT
This really would be laughable if such atrocities weren't being carried out.
Here's an old electoral poster a friend of mine has shared on Facebook. 'The younger generation chooses Alexander Lukashenko' the headline state. It continues, 'The era of septuagenarian rulers is over. Belarus needs new people and a new politics'. He wasn't wrong.
Apart from the moustache he reminds me of the Gregor Fisher character in the Hamlet advert. For comparison purposes only ...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 19, 2020 15:56:48 GMT
This really would be laughable if such atrocities weren't being carried out.
Here's an old electoral poster a friend of mine has shared on Facebook. 'The younger generation chooses Alexander Lukashenko' the headline state. It continues, 'The era of septuagenarian rulers is over. Belarus needs new people and a new politics'. He wasn't wrong.
Apart from the moustache he reminds me of the Gregor Fisher character in the Hamlet advert. Becoming Belarusian dictator. Whilst touring with Sparks. Impressive. |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 19, 2020 16:16:06 GMT
Apart from the moustache he reminds me of the Gregor Fisher character in the Hamlet advert. Becoming Belarusian dictator. Whilst touring with Sparks. Impressive. "This dictatorship ain't big enough for the both of us. And It's not me who's gonna leave". |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 19, 2020 18:57:53 GMT
Becoming Belarusian dictator. Whilst touring with Sparks. Impressive. "This dictatorship ain't big enough for the both of us. And It's not me who's gonna leave".  |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 22, 2020 23:23:22 GMT
Bolshoi Eck is now claiming that Poland is about to invade. Not sure Poland has invaded anywhere for a long time.
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Post by cj on Aug 22, 2020 23:30:21 GMT
Bolshoi Eck is now claiming that Poland is about to invade. Not sure Poland has invaded anywhere for a long time. I think the last time had winged Hussars in the van
Edit: Although an afterthought had me check, I seemed to recall Poland kept using Cavalry a long time. I was right Wikipedia tell me the 1st Warsaw Cavalry Division was disbanded in 1947!
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