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Post by carlton43 on Nov 15, 2019 9:39:54 GMT
Result from Torbay; Goodrington and Roselands Con; 892 LD; 641 Br; 168 Lab; 72 Gr; 35 Con gain from LD That is a bit different from the over night results. Con 49.3% (+21.7) LD 35.5% (+4.8) Brexit 9.3% ( from nowhere) Lab 4% (-2.3) Green 1.9% (-7.5) will be concerned that there is not a special GE campaign in Torbay constituency as there is in Tunbridge Wells, especially as Torbay used to be LD and tunbridge Wells has never been near to one. |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 15, 2019 9:57:37 GMT
That is a bit different from the over night results. Con 49.3% (+21.7) LD 35.5% (+4.8) Brexit 9.3% ( from nowhere) Lab 4% (-2.3) Green 1.9% (-7.5) will be concerned that there is not a special GE campaign in Torbay constituency as there is in Tunbridge Wells, especially as Torbay used to be LD and tunbridge Wells has never been near to one. Of course I am concerned, that goes without saying, and that was not the sort of memorable by-election result I was hoping for! On the general point, you will understand that sometimes it is less easy to fire up a campaign in somewhere with a history of success which has ebbed away, than somewhere with little or no history of success. In Torbay the tide has turned (+4.8%)but the upturn is a bit sluggish. |
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Post by northbriton on Nov 15, 2019 9:58:01 GMT
That is a bit different from the over night results. Con 49.3% (+21.7) LD 35.5% (+4.8) Brexit 9.3% ( from nowhere) Lab 4% (-2.3) Green 1.9% (-7.5) will be concerned that there is not a special GE campaign in Torbay constituency as there is in Tunbridge Wells, especially as Torbay used to be LD and tunbridge Wells has never been near to one. We shouldn't draw too many conclusions from a couple of results but if we are tempted to do so, then they indicate that, yes, LDs will make inroads in safe middle-class Tory seats in the SE, but in the more Brexity SW where the actual LD targets are, the Tory vote will stay solid. So conclusion is that the bigger LD vote share may bring comparatively few seats into the yellow fold. |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 15, 2019 10:01:46 GMT
yellowperil will be concerned that there is not a special GE campaign in Torbay constituency as there is in Tunbridge Wells, especially as Torbay used to be LD and tunbridge Wells has never been near to one. Of course I am concerned, that goes without saying, and that was not the sort of memorable by-election result I was hoping for! On the general point, you will understand that sometimes it is less easy to fire up a campaign in somewhere with a history of success which has ebbed away, than somewhere with little or no history of success. In Torbay the tide has turned (+4.8%)but the upturn is a bit sluggish. Also, it’s easier to fire up a campaign when you aren’t the administration of the council. Tunbridge Wells is Conservative controlled ( and not very well by the sounds of it) and Torbay is Lib Dem lead. |
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Post by spirit on Nov 15, 2019 10:06:04 GMT
Lab gain in St Mary, Powys
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Post by andrewp on Nov 15, 2019 10:12:44 GMT
Lab gain in St Mary, Powys Don’t think many saw that coming! |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 15, 2019 10:13:09 GMT
Of course I am concerned, that goes without saying, and that was not the sort of memorable by-election result I was hoping for! On the general point, you will understand that sometimes it is less easy to fire up a campaign in somewhere with a history of success which has ebbed away, than somewhere with little or no history of success. In Torbay the tide has turned (+4.8%)but the upturn is a bit sluggish. Also, it’s easier to fire up a campaign when you aren’t the administration of the council. Tunbridge Wells is Conservative controlled ( and not very well by the sounds of it) and Torbay is Lib Dem lead. The other factor was the substantial Indy vote last time , which perhaps indicates the Tory vote was split in two then, and reunited this time. Presumably the UKIP vote last time is cancelled out by the BxP vote this time. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 15, 2019 10:15:20 GMT
Do the Tories still have a majority on Tunbridge Wells DC now?
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Post by phil156 on Nov 15, 2019 10:16:18 GMT
Lab gain in St Mary, Powys Don’t think many saw that coming! |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 15, 2019 10:17:20 GMT
Do the Tories still have a majority on Tunbridge Wells DC now? Yes 27-21. Probably until next May.... |
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Post by phil156 on Nov 15, 2019 10:18:42 GMT
Regarding St Mary's it wasn't a surprise when the con councillor stood down I knew we lost it it's all red around the ward it was just the local woman keeping it blue
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 15, 2019 10:19:28 GMT
Do the Tories still have a majority on Tunbridge Wells DC now? Yes , reasonably comfortably :27/48 I think. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 15, 2019 10:19:48 GMT
What did Labour do to offend the people of Rhos enough to finish behind the Tories? The Plaid candidate was a former councillor for the ward. Not the first time that has happened in this neck of the woods recently..... |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 15, 2019 10:20:27 GMT
Powys, St Mary’s
Lab 344
Con 244
PC 130
LD 102
Ind 101
Lab gain from Con
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 15, 2019 10:28:49 GMT
Re the earlier discussion, Shap may not be the "highest" ward in the country in the sense of having the highest point - but it may have the highest lowest point?
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2019 10:29:54 GMT
Get away!! Do the other constituencies know about this? I think we should be told. 2.7% swing Lab to Con Hello cheeky. |
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Post by northbriton on Nov 15, 2019 10:34:39 GMT
Lab gain in St Mary, Powys Don’t think many saw that coming! Weird. Judging by previous results I would have expected a LibDem gain. |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2019 10:34:45 GMT
Do the Tories still have a majority on Tunbridge Wells DC now? Disgustingly, yes.  |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Nov 15, 2019 10:40:30 GMT
Re the earlier discussion, Shap may not be the "highest" ward in the country in the sense of having the highest point - but it may have the highest lowest point? And if Scafell Pike is in a ward that includes Seascale, then that ward will have the biggest difference between its lowest and highest points. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 15, 2019 11:53:02 GMT
7 results and only 1 hold - that's certainly unusual.
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