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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Oct 14, 2019 22:30:08 GMT
Is Fairford Leys actually bigger than Aylesbury itself? According to Wikipedia, Fairford Leys has a population of 4,858 but it depends what you class as Aylesbury because Aylesbury's population is given as 58,740 and that figure obviously comes from Aylesbury proper plus all its suburbs(Fairford Leys isn't included in the 58,740 figure, it is included in the Aylesbury Urban Area which has a population of 71,997.) |
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Post by BucksDucks on Oct 15, 2019 11:21:43 GMT
Is Fairford Leys actually bigger than Aylesbury itself? According to Wikipedia, Fairford Leys has a population of 4,858 but it depends what you class as Aylesbury because Aylesbury's population is given as 58,740 and that figure obviously comes from Aylesbury proper plus all its suburbs(Fairford Leys isn't included in the 58,740 figure, it is included in the Aylesbury Urban Area which has a population of 71,997.)
A lot of the newer suburbs of the town get their own parish council rather than have the Town Council's area expanded to include them. The trend started with Watermead in the 90s, followed by Fairford Leys, Berryfields and Buckingham Park. I believe there is on-going talks about the new Kingsbrook development becoming another parish. So it a bit more difficult than it used to be to define where Aylesbury ends.
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Oct 17, 2019 13:20:31 GMT
According to Wikipedia, Fairford Leys has a population of 4,858 but it depends what you class as Aylesbury because Aylesbury's population is given as 58,740 and that figure obviously comes from Aylesbury proper plus all its suburbs(Fairford Leys isn't included in the 58,740 figure, it is included in the Aylesbury Urban Area which has a population of 71,997.)
A lot of the newer suburbs of the town get their own parish council rather than have the Town Council's area expanded to include them. The trend started with Watermead in the 90s, followed by Fairford Leys, Berryfields and Buckingham Park. I believe there is on-going talks about the new Kingsbrook development becoming another parish. So it a bit more difficult than it used to be to define where Aylesbury ends.
It makes sense,because a lot of those new suburbs are essentially new villages just outside Aylesbury,not really part of the town itself. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 21, 2019 14:03:59 GMT
Notional/guesstimate for the 2017 election in Buckingham constituency had the parties fought it:
C 67.3%
Lab 24.6%
L Dem 7.1%
Others 3.3%
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Post by samdwebber on Oct 21, 2019 19:30:40 GMT
If no General election until the new year I guess there is the possibility of a by-election here?
I recall Michael Martin resigning his seat pretty quickly and causing Gordon Brown a potentially awkward by-election in 2009 which Willie Bain went onto hold comfortably.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 21, 2019 19:51:39 GMT
Speakers normally retire by resigning their seats (well, through Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northstead).
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 21, 2019 20:38:46 GMT
Betty Boothroyd went on 23 October 2000, the day Michael Martin was elected Speaker. I think both Bernard Weatherill and George Thomas timed their retirements to coincide with General Elections at which they also retired as MPs.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 22, 2019 8:48:30 GMT
Michael Martin went left the day Bercow was elected too.
The Leader of the Commons usually tables a motion immediately after the departing speaker has left.This is what Harman tabled in 2009 ahead of Martin's inevitable Peerage...
"That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying Her Majesty that she will be most graciously pleased to confer some signal mark of Her Royal favour upon the Right honorable Mr. Michael J. Martin for his eminent services during the important period in which he presided with such distinguished ability and dignity in the Chair of this House."
Assuming a Peerage is offered (as it was in 2000 and 2009 etc), why does the former speaker need to request to be appointed to the Chiltens etc why not just wait to be disqualified from the Commons with a Peerage?
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Post by peterl on Oct 22, 2019 18:07:37 GMT
In light of Bercow's controversial speakership, I would not rule out such a motion being voted down.
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Post by john07 on Oct 23, 2019 10:00:14 GMT
In light of Bercow's controversial speakership, I would not rule out such a motion being voted down. By the Conservatives who f he haven’t won a meaningful vote in Parliament since the appointment of the Johnson? |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 24, 2019 9:57:18 GMT
In light of Bercow's controversial speakership, I would not rule out such a motion being voted down. By the Conservatives who f he haven’t won a meaningful vote in Parliament since the appointment of the Johnson? There wouldn't be a whipped vote and there are enough Tory traditionalists who would simply see it as protocol that Speakers go to the Lords. |
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Post by pl on Oct 24, 2019 10:04:59 GMT
By the Conservatives who f he haven’t won a meaningful vote in Parliament since the appointment of the Johnson? There wouldn't be a whipped vote and there are enough Tory traditionalists who would simply see it as protocol that Speakers go to the Lords. Of course if there isn’t a general election soon, it would be very tempting to elevate/promote him out of the way! One less remainer for BoJo to deal with! |
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Post by tiberius on Oct 24, 2019 10:24:42 GMT
on a sidenote: John Bercow's sheer tenure is quite impressive in a historical context, and is a fitting capstone to the career of a unique parliamentarian.
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Post by Pimpernal on Oct 24, 2019 11:55:49 GMT
on a sidenote: John Bercow's sheer tenure is quite impressive in a historical context, and is a fitting capstone to the career of a unique parliamen tarian.  |
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 24, 2019 20:18:32 GMT
on a sidenote: John Bercow's sheer tenure is quite impressive in a historical context, and is a fitting capstone to the career of a unique parliamentarian. He's the longest serving Speaker since Edward FitzRoy. But on the other hand, he had a head start: Speakers have tended to be older when first elected. |
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