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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2019 17:31:48 GMT
I would so love it if he announced his defection to the Lib Dems. If only for a couple of days.
He won't be the Labour candidate so they can regret all they like.
We are allowed to say No. Where's your sense of fun?
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 3, 2019 17:32:05 GMT
Surely the Labour members signed his nomination papers in 2017 will not be regretting it? I would so love it if he announced his defection to the Lib Dems. If only for a couple of days.
He won't be the Labour candidate so they can regret all they like.
I think Jared is an example of someone who would not be accepted as a Lib Dem Mp Re nomination papers, I thought it was all about endorsing the person, not the Party 🤔
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2019 17:36:32 GMT
I would so love it if he announced his defection to the Lib Dems. If only for a couple of days.
He won't be the Labour candidate so they can regret all they like.
I think Jared is an example of someone who would not be accepted as a Lib Dem Mp Re nomination papers, I thought it was all about endorsing the person, not the Party 🤔 Go on, chuckle. you know you want to.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 3, 2019 17:41:03 GMT
Surely the Labour members signed his nomination papers in 2017 will not be regretting it? I would so love it if he announced his defection to the Lib Dems. If only for a couple of days.
He won't be the Labour candidate so they can regret all they like.
When I was growing up in Sheffield everyone knew it as being in the People's Republic of S Yorkshire. I do think the Labour Party are being a bunch of snoflakes (channelling Carlton here, which makes typing difficult) not to throw their new ppc out for disagreeing with the local Soviet leader..
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2019 17:43:21 GMT
I would so love it if he announced his defection to the Lib Dems. If only for a couple of days.
He won't be the Labour candidate so they can regret all they like.
When I was growing up in Sheffield everyone knew it as being in the People's Republic of S Yorkshire. I do think the Labour Party are being a bunch of snoflakes (channelling Carlton here, which makes typing difficult) not to throw their new ppc out for disagreeing with the local Soviet leader.. Especially as she is called Blake.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 3, 2019 18:01:30 GMT
When I was growing up in Sheffield everyone knew it as being in the People's Republic of S Yorkshire. I do think the Labour Party are being a bunch of snoflakes (channelling Carlton here, which makes typing difficult) not to throw their new ppc out for disagreeing with the local Soviet leader.. Especially as she is called Blake. Conisbrough Castle was surrounded by a massive barbed wire fence, watchtowers, searchlights and dog patrols back then. You needed a special permit to visit relatives in Conisbrough. And you tell that to young people today and they'll tell you the Republic was just about cheap bus fares! I blame social media
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 3, 2019 19:59:33 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 3, 2019 20:53:05 GMT
At least Frank Maguire abstained in person.
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Post by john07 on Sept 3, 2019 20:57:39 GMT
Especially as she is called Blake. Conisbrough Castle was surrounded by a massive barbed wire fence, watchtowers, searchlights and dog patrols back then. You needed a special permit to visit relatives in Conisbrough. And you tell that to young people today and they'll tell you the Republic was just about cheap bus fares! I blame social media How would Servalan react?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 3, 2019 20:58:09 GMT
At least Frank Maguire abstained in person. And like O'Mara, Maguire ran a bar. But given Maguire spent the day of 28 March 1979 drinking in Parliament, I'm not sure he set a really good example.
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 3, 2019 20:58:24 GMT
The rumours are he's withdrawn his application for the Stewardship and could stand in a general election, qualifying for the severance pay for defeated MPs.
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 3, 2019 20:59:55 GMT
At least Frank Maguire abstained in person. And like O'Mara, Maguire ran a bar. But given Maguire spent the day of 28 March 1979 drinking in Parliament, I'm not sure he set a really good example. Michael Foot invoked the spirit of the Norway Debate in his winding up speech so I suppose Maguire half-honoured the drunk MPs who got into a slanging match with Churchill.
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 3, 2019 21:05:05 GMT
The rumours are he's withdrawn his application for the Stewardship and could stand in a general election, qualifying for the severance pay for defeated MPs. Well Hancock got 1.7% in 2015, I'd be surprised if O'Mara did that well...
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 3, 2019 21:09:26 GMT
Does the sitting MP now have to stand in the same constituency (or, in the event of boundary changes, one that contains part of their outgoing seat)? Or can they still stand absolutely anywhere they like and still collect it?
(I seem to recall a case of a retiring Labour MP who went and got the nomination in a solid Conservative seat in the Home Counties because of this.)
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2019 21:11:47 GMT
Does the sitting MP now have to stand in the same constituency (or, in the event of boundary changes, one that contains part of their outgoing seat)? Or can they still stand absolutely anywhere they like and still collect it? (I seem to recall a case of a retiring Labour MP who went and got the nomination in a solid Conservative seat in the Home Counties because of this.) Willie Hamilton went to South Hams, but it wasn't the cynical move it looked.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 3, 2019 21:14:30 GMT
Does the sitting MP now have to stand in the same constituency (or, in the event of boundary changes, one that contains part of their outgoing seat)? Or can they still stand absolutely anywhere they like and still collect it? (I seem to recall a case of a retiring Labour MP who went and got the nomination in a solid Conservative seat in the Home Counties because of this.) I was briefly looking at the IPSA report earlier, and I think it's qualifyingly-same constituency. I don't know the details, would swapping from Hallam to Central after those two flats at the edge of Walkley have been transfered qualify?
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 3, 2019 21:14:33 GMT
Does the sitting MP now have to stand in the same constituency (or, in the event of boundary changes, one that contains part of their outgoing seat)? Or can they still stand absolutely anywhere they like and still collect it? (I seem to recall a case of a retiring Labour MP who went and got the nomination in a solid Conservative seat in the Home Counties because of this.) Yes. It was Willie Hamilton best known as scourge of the Royals but actually a right wing Labour man on every other issue. I think he stood for South Hams in Devon after being deselected
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 3, 2019 21:24:04 GMT
Does the sitting MP now have to stand in the same constituency (or, in the event of boundary changes, one that contains part of their outgoing seat)? Or can they still stand absolutely anywhere they like and still collect it? (I seem to recall a case of a retiring Labour MP who went and got the nomination in a solid Conservative seat in the Home Counties because of this.) Yes. It was Willie Hamilton best known as scourge of the Royals but actually a right wing Labour man on every other issue. I think he stood for South Hams in Devon after being deselected Wasn't he in any case too old to claim the redundancy money?
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 3, 2019 21:27:50 GMT
Yes. It was Willie Hamilton best known as scourge of the Royals but actually a right wing Labour man on every other issue. I think he stood for South Hams in Devon after being deselected Wasn't he in any case too old to claim the redundancy money? Yes. It may have been a private joke - the MP for South Hams at the time was Anthony Steen who at the previous GE had attracted some unfavourable attention for chicken-running from his abolished Liverpool constituency.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 3, 2019 21:29:12 GMT
Yes. It was Willie Hamilton best known as scourge of the Royals but actually a right wing Labour man on every other issue. I think he stood for South Hams in Devon after being deselected Wasn't he in any case too old to claim the redundancy money? Yup.
He was also the man who defeated the Communist MP Willie Gallacher (at his second attempt in 1950).
And not Scottish - he was from Durham.
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