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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 21:33:49 GMT
This is not Italy. You can't have two classes of voters. Tell that to EU citizens during a general election  Or, for that matter, 16 and 17 year olds in Scotland during the same. I am not in favour of any of these groups receiving the vote in any elections. |
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 28, 2019 9:40:50 GMT
50.1 % in 2007 was the biggest majority the Lib Dems have managed here. Under present circumstances that seems a reasonable target for them... Wow. a majority that actually is a majority.  |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 28, 2019 10:23:32 GMT
What has caused this sudden outburst of hatred for Shetland? It is deep-seated island unst that makes one want to yell out and is unfetlaring. Sumburgh has to do it. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 28, 2019 10:25:32 GMT
What has caused this sudden outburst of hatred for Shetland? Zet is the question. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 11:10:02 GMT
Was Shetland the only constituency where the SNP lost vote share in 2011? I'm assuming it had something to do with Jean Urquhart being parachuted in. I disagree strongly with her politically, but I often have lunch in her excellent cafe in Ullapool.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 4, 2019 11:30:34 GMT
A very strong independent candidate probably had something to do with it too.
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Post by samdwebber on Jul 4, 2019 13:44:42 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 4, 2019 14:54:29 GMT
The nights will be starting to draw in by then! |
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Post by jamie on Jul 4, 2019 19:25:32 GMT
Brexit Party gain
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Post by johnloony on Jul 4, 2019 23:57:34 GMT
You wait decades for a parliamentary by-election in August, and then two come alone at once.
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 5, 2019 9:54:55 GMT
If we are counting parliaments other than Westminster, the Assembly byelection for Ynys Mon was held on 1st August 2013.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 13, 2019 12:55:35 GMT
Lib Dem gain from Shetland Nationalist. |
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Post by middyman on Jul 13, 2019 14:41:28 GMT
This is not Italy. You can't have two classes of voters. Tell that to EU citizens during a general election Or, for that matter, 16 and 17 year olds in Scotland during the same. Interesting article: www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051Confirms my long-held view that the voting age should be raised. It confirms that people do not think fully rationally until they are 25 or so; this explains why so many youngsters are lefties. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 16:57:00 GMT
Tell that to EU citizens during a general election Or, for that matter, 16 and 17 year olds in Scotland during the same. Interesting article: www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051Confirms my long-held view that the voting age should be raised. It confirms that people do not think fully rationally until they are 25 or so; this explains why so many youngsters are lefties. The article is short and cites no sources. Wanting to prevent people from voting because they are likely to disagree with you is not a good look. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Jul 13, 2019 17:01:50 GMT
Tell that to EU citizens during a general election Or, for that matter, 16 and 17 year olds in Scotland during the same. Interesting article: www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051Confirms my long-held view that the voting age should be raised. It confirms that people do not think fully rationally until they are 25 or so; this explains why so many youngsters are lefties. Disenfranchising people because they tend not to make rational/good judgments would lead to stripping voting rights from 90% plus of the population... |
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Post by john07 on Jul 13, 2019 17:44:55 GMT
Tell that to EU citizens during a general election Or, for that matter, 16 and 17 year olds in Scotland during the same. Interesting article: www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051Confirms my long-held view that the voting age should be raised. It confirms that people do not think fully rationally until they are 25 or so; this explains why so many youngsters are lefties. This comment tends to confirm my view that senile old farts should have to pass a test to retain voting rights. |
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Post by middyman on Jul 13, 2019 17:50:26 GMT
I was prompted to look this up following a tv programme in which brain scans of a youth and parent were compared. Some may find it unpalatable, but the medical fact is that the decision-making part of the brain is not fully developed until someone is about 25. This also explains why young drivers are so accident prone (unlike the elderly); they do not appreciate the extent of the risks they are taking and have poor judgment, quite the reverse of the qualities I would want to see in someone choosing a government.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 13, 2019 19:17:47 GMT
I was prompted to look this up following a tv programme in which brain scans of a youth and parent were compared. Some may find it unpalatable, but the medical fact is that the decision-making part of the brain is not fully developed until someone is about 25. This also explains why young drivers are so accident prone (unlike the elderly); they do not appreciate the extent of the risks they are taking and have poor judgment, quite the reverse of the qualities I would want to see in someone choosing a government. There is something in this, but there is also something in the idea that cognitive abilities decline towards the end of life too. Anyway, this misses the point that the right to vote is not based on the quality of judgement but on the need for consent from those ruled. Consent has to be informed consent which rules out infants and lunatics except during lucid intervals. The argument for votes at below 18 is essentially about whether or not they can give informed consent, not about whether or not they will exercise their vote wisely. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Jul 13, 2019 19:22:32 GMT
I was prompted to look this up following a tv programme in which brain scans of a youth and parent were compared. Some may find it unpalatable, but the medical fact is that the decision-making part of the brain is not fully developed until someone is about 25. This also explains why young drivers are so accident prone (unlike the elderly); they do not appreciate the extent of the risks they are taking and have poor judgment, quite the reverse of the qualities I would want to see in someone choosing a government. The problem is that you're taking science relating to a quite specific aspect of brain development and decision-making (perception of risk and risk-taking behaviour) and applying it across a very different decision-making context where there is no evidence it applies. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 13, 2019 20:53:41 GMT
This comment tends to confirm my view that senile old farts should have to pass a test to retain voting rights. May I say on behalf of senile old farts I think that's quite wrong? |
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