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Post by Georg Ebner on May 6, 2019 17:19:20 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 2, 2019 20:55:48 GMT
The public OpinonPollster - which was once again quite right - released their survey (naturally at www.cis.es ). |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 3, 2019 1:44:37 GMT
The Cortes elected in April has met. The Speakers of both chambers are federalists from the PSC, the Catalan wing of the Socialists. The 4 MPs and one Senator from Catalonia who are currently in prison were allowed out in order to be sworn in, but then the PSOE, PP and Ciudadanos all voted a few days later to kick them out again and back behind bars.
Podemos continue to ask for a full coalition, whereas the PSOE keep insisting on being allowed to try to make a minority government function. They are attempting to put together some sort of 'ministers outside Cabinet' halfway house fudge (a bit like in New Zealand, perhaps?) but that ignores the more important fact that the two parties combined still don't have an absolute majority in the lower house.
All sides have around 3 more months to resolve the impasse before Parliament would be dissolved yet again.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 3, 2019 3:58:02 GMT
The Cortes elected in April has met. The Speakers of both chambers are federalists from the PSC, the Catalan wing of the Socialists. The 4 MPs and one Senator from Catalonia who are currently in prison were allowed out in order to be sworn in, but then the PSOE, PP and Ciudadanos all voted a few days later to kick them out again and back behind bars. Podemos continue to ask for a full coalition, whereas the PSOE keep insisting on being allowed to try to make a minority government function. They are attempting to put together some sort of 'ministers outside Cabinet' halfway house fudge (a bit like in New Zealand, perhaps?) but that ignores the more important fact that the two parties combined still don't have an absolute majority in the lower house. All sides have around 3 more months to resolve the impasse before Parliament would be dissolved yet again. Fits more to "Spanish Politics", doesn't it? |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 3, 2019 21:45:53 GMT
The Cortes elected in April has met. The Speakers of both chambers are federalists from the PSC, the Catalan wing of the Socialists. The 4 MPs and one Senator from Catalonia who are currently in prison were allowed out in order to be sworn in, but then the PSOE, PP and Ciudadanos all voted a few days later to kick them out again and back behind bars. Podemos continue to ask for a full coalition, whereas the PSOE keep insisting on being allowed to try to make a minority government function. They are attempting to put together some sort of 'ministers outside Cabinet' halfway house fudge (a bit like in New Zealand, perhaps?) but that ignores the more important fact that the two parties combined still don't have an absolute majority in the lower house. All sides have around 3 more months to resolve the impasse before Parliament would be dissolved yet again. Fits more to "Spanish Politics", doesn't it? It does... unless we end up with 'Spanish General Election 2019b'! |
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Post by john07 on Jun 23, 2019 14:55:10 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 17, 2019 21:30:12 GMT
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Post by mboy on Sept 18, 2019 8:58:08 GMT
{facepalm}
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 18, 2019 9:01:21 GMT
Is there much evidence that the outcome will be any different?
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Post by polaris on Sept 18, 2019 9:18:33 GMT
Is there much evidence that the outcome will be any different? I suspect that both Ciudadanos and Podemos will be squeezed. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 18, 2019 9:22:46 GMT
It does perhaps explain the popularity of additional seats for the winning party in some multi party PR based systems
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 18, 2019 10:54:17 GMT
Is there much evidence that the outcome will be any different? A relatively small advance in seats for the PSOE could make a practical difference tbf, whether that will actually happen is of course another matter. |
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Post by polaris on Sept 18, 2019 15:10:31 GMT
Is there much evidence that the outcome will be any different? A relatively small advance in seats for the PSOE could make a practical difference tbf, whether that will actually happen is of course another matter. The biggest problem has been that Sanchez is reluctant - for obvious reasons - to form a government which would depend on Catalan nationalists for survival. There were proposals for a coalition with Podemos; Sanchez and the PSOE were open to this, but were unwilling to allow the Podemos leader to sit in Cabinet, so they fell through. The PSOE's polling numbers are good - they will most likely emerge from the election with more seats, and Podemos with many fewer. In those circumstances, Podemos would probably back down and support a minority government, not wanting to face yet another election. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 18, 2019 16:46:40 GMT
It's worth noting that although new elections were widely expected these past few weeks, the move last night was something of a surprise. It had been thought that the King would propose Sánchez as candidate for PM to the Congress once more, and that he'd again fail to get the required majority twice in three days. Only then would the Cortes be dissolved.
The fact that Felipe VI has not chosen to put Sánchez forward for a second time shows that in the last few days' round of consultations, the other three main parties must've been scathing about the PSOE's approach. And perhaps they think the Socialists' poll lead is soft, so they fancy their chances in November after all...
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 25, 2019 19:23:02 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 2, 2019 1:04:32 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 2, 2019 7:34:27 GMT
I wonder where this PP revival has come from. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 2, 2019 16:09:41 GMT
I wonder where this PP revival has come from. Maybe from the Citizens Party. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 3, 2019 2:44:46 GMT
Useless fact: the winning percentage in 2 of the last 3 Spanish elections has been 28.7%.
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Post by markgoodair on Oct 3, 2019 6:58:03 GMT
Useless fact: the winning percentage in 2 of the last 3 Spanish elections has been 28.7%. Surely you actually mean the highest percentage gained by the lead party? If a party had actually "won" an election Spain wouldn't be going to the polls yet again. |
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